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sleipnir214

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The "Witty" worm, which targeted the RealSecure and BlackIce products of Internet Security Systems (ISS), hit two days after vulnerabilities were reported. The "Witty" worm is a destructive worm which writes bytes in random locations of an infected computer's hard-drive, eventually trashing the system. Around 12,000 computers were affected by this worm last week.

ISS only provided patches to those customers which had purchased maintenance agreements (
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Ah - and that was a marvellous irony. All these MS critics kicked up a fuss about how insecure Outlook was in the wake of...um...<fx: googles to check which virus it was>...LoveLetter; MS reacted by providing the patch to address that criticism. And then lo and behold if all the critics (yes, many of the same ones) started complaining that the patch stopped them using Outlook the way they wanted to...

 
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With OSL licencing, you get free telephone support for Windows and Office as well.

Also, I can't say I've had any problems with patches screwing up software. Then again, the software I used is either signed by MS or has come from a vendor like Sage where its throughly tested before hand.

Maybe its just me, but I really haven't got any issues with MS support.

But this isn't about MS, its about support in general; and I agree with the general issue - bloody scandelous. (Feel free to correct my spelling!)

Saying that, its the same with most cars. When was the last time you purchased a 2nd hand car (or even new) and got free serving or breakdown assistance on it?!

Steve.
 
Really this is an issue of not getting what you did not pay for. I don't see how you can complain about a costing model that you accepted.

1. It does no more harm to the software makers, shouldn't cost much to allow all users of the product to download the patch.

It cost them the maintenance contracts that they could have gotten and maybe even the ones they have. To me a company that breaks out the maintenance contracts is providing a better costing model in some cases.

Say I'm using product x in a internal network that has been deem no risk to hacking and I know that product x does what I need it to do. I also know that 90% of the patches for said product where security patches and the remaining 10% of the patches are issues that do not effect my site. I have the option to purchase the product with and without maintenance contracts. Why would I want to pay for maintenance that my employees have deemed unneeded for our situation? If you force these companies to include the maintenance it doesn't disappear. It goes into the purchase price of the product. Thus I'd be, once agian, paying for something that I don't need and under the old costing model I would not have to pay for.


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SemperFiDownUnda makes an excellent point. It may be better to have the option of not carrying maintenance to save money than to pay the maintenance as part of the purchase price. With maintenance contracts you have a choice.
 
I still see the product as being defective. It would be one thing if a certain combination of clicks made it crash, or if it had a small memory leak.

And basically what I was saying is if the company is going to spend the money to fix it, they are not saving money by only allowing their contractual customers to download.
 
And basically what I was saying is if the company is going to spend the money to fix it, they are not saving money by only allowing their contractual customers to download.

If they didn't spend the money to fix a known issue then they would certainly have liability issues. However if they were to give the patch to those who had no service contract then they would be doing a disservice to those who had invested in purchasing a service agreement.



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You may be right, MDXer. I was under the impression that the service agreement would have been for technical support, and known maintenance, not to fix major security flaws.

Basically, if someone purchases a product and a service agreement (that is used to fix major security flaws), then I wouldn't want the product. I don't want to pay extra just in case the manufacturer discovered he introduced new security risks to my network. I want to pay extra in case I mess up the product, or need technical support, or want new features and upgrades as they are added.

Unlike virus protection, the article does not mention that these products (I don't think I've ever used them, forgive my ignorance if need be) are subscription-based to to scan for flaws already existant in systems. The article lead me to believe that the products themselves caused a security threat.

It is similar to buying a special type of air cleaner for your car that promises longer engine life. You can pay more to have it cleaned or replaced at not charge. But you find out that metal compenents regularly break off and fall into your carburetor. You shouldn't have to be a contractual customer so you can get assurance that the air cleaner won't mess up your engine.
 
RiverGuy,

A bit of further reading revealed that the witty worm is was not introduced by the ISS software but rather, a worm that exploited a security hole in the ISS software. The following article also points out that simply blocking a UDP port can also prevent the virus, making the patch although desirable not a a necessary.


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