Cisco 7911G

[morenot]

Hi:
Somebody has connect 7911g to IP Office

I download SIP firmware to 7911, the phone show "unprovisioned"
I see on log viewer that phone look for another files:
CTLSEXXXX.tlv
ITLSEPxxxxx.tlv
ITLfile.tlv
SEPxxxx.conf.xml
XMLDefault.conf.xml

Any ideas

JLMT//

 

[intrigrant]

set up a tftp server which can provide these files to the phone
I have done that once with a 7911 just for the fun of it but transferring did not work and no features at all so that was once and never again.

If it ain't dutch it ain't much

 

[morenot]

thanks Intrigant..

I have tftp32 server
where I get these files?

 

[intrigrant]

Cisco support site if you have a partner login

If it ain't dutch it ain't much

 

[morenot]

Any more?

 

[amriddle01]

Why would you imagine people here on the Avaya IP Office forum would know about Cisco phones? The fact you want to eventually connect to an IP Office is irrelevant

 

[EmilP]

Hi,

How did you ever got this to work? When i try it the phone is sending the registration with a different sourceport than 5060. This is not a problem for the IP Office which will responde with an OK but on the same port. The problem is that the phone wants to respond to be on port 5060. How did you get around this?

 

[GordonKapesMZ4]

I thought IP Office allows you to use any type of SIP phone? Guess I am wrong.

 

[intrigrant]

Cisco is NOT any type of phone. Cisco is as arrogant as Microsoft, they implement their own protocols to keep competition out.


If it ain't dutch it ain't much

 

[EmilP]

Apperantly this was something Cisco changed a couple of years ago to make their phones more difficult to use with another system. Eventually I got it to work with an Cisco 7960 by enabling NAT on the phone even though there was no NAT between the phone and the IP Office.

 

[intrigrant]

For me it was on IPO rel5 and I can't remember how I got it to work but it did work somehow.
The phone has ended in the garbage can and the software is deleted.
Why the heck use a Cisco ( or any other brand system phone ) on a IP Office as you can buy cheap Grandstream, TipTel, Siemens SIP phones whom work wel on a IP Office.

If it ain't dutch it ain't much

 

[EmilP]

Sometimes you just have to do what the customer wants
I´m also in need of a cheap(very cheap) SIP phone for another project, what can you recommend that works well?

 

[intrigrant]

Let me Google that for you.... cheap sip phone 29.900.000 results. One of them has your phone!

If it ain't dutch it ain't much

 

[amriddle01]

EmilP, the cost of the licence to use SIP phones plus the cost of the "cheap handset" gets very close to an Avaya phone, but the Avaya phone will have way more features and full integration with the system, the SIP phone certainly will not get you that. They both run on a network and even use the same codecs the only difference is the signalling which the customer will not even be aware of, just doesn't make sense to do it

 

[EmilP]

Well Intrigrant I heard about google, but I never really figured it out...
No, the question was if you have tried and could recommend a cheap one. I´m not up for testing 29.900.000 phones so that´s why you can use forums like this and ask other BPs for advice.
All brands have different way of configuration and that can be either easy or a pain in the ass. So to make my question more clear:
Can you, or anybody, recommend a cheap SIP phone which is easy to use with IP Office and not a pain in the ass to configure so I don´t have to test 29.900.00 phones.

amriddle01, this is situations when you really need to cut the cost. The 1603 is cheap yes but it looks terrible and the when you want it with PoE it is not so cheap anymore. I think you could save some money with SIP phones but you don´t want to spend all that money on longer configuration time on the SIP phones.

 

[tlpeter]

A 3rd party IP endpoint license is $95 more expensive then an Avaya IP endpoint license.
So you must find a sip phone that is $95 cheaper the an Avaya phone.

Also the lack of features will make it an expensive analog phone (it cannot do much more)


BAZINGA!

I'm not insane, my mother had me tested!

 

[amriddle01]

You have asked for advice and we are giving it, don't use third party SIP phones. The configuration on the IP Office is simple and the pretty much the same no matter what phone you use, but even if you find a phone that works out 50-100 euro cheaper than a 1608 (plus avaya licence), you will spend much more time getting it to do anything more than make a call, troubleshooting issues you will be on your own and add to that the fact that even at best you get less than a tenth of the features you would on an Avaya phone it's a false economy really.

Cheap never equals quality either

 

[EmilP]

I mean the configuration on the phone and not on the IP Office. I was not asking for advice in using it or not. I was asking for a third party phone recommendation. Anyway, never mind. Thanks anyway.

 

[tlpeter]

You want recommendation for a cheap solution?
Don't buy a SIP phone when you really do not need it.
Otherwise pick any that you like.


BAZINGA!

I'm not insane, my mother had me tested!