CICS ring timing questions

[AFSMITTY]

I'm looking for a way to use an analog cordless phone in cunjunction with the Norstar CICS, my problem is, the system phones continue to ring 1 or 2 times after the cordless phone goes off hook? i can change the trunk settings on a norstar 3X8, and it works fine, but i have no luck with the CICS. can anyone help?

 

[fjycsgt]

USE THE BUILT IN ATA FOR THE CORDLESS SET

 

[senk1s]

The newer CICS (from version 4.2) do NOT have the internal analog port, if you need an analog port, you need to have an ATA (analog terminal adapter)

Another interpretation of the question:
Are you trying to use the same analog line connected to the LS/DS card of the CICS. If so, please dont do that, that will/can cause this. When u access the Pacbell line from the corless phone, that click could trigger the LS/DS as a ring, which is why your phones ring

 

[curlycord]

senk1s can you re-phrase that CICS not having an analog port please?
I'm not aware of a CICS without analog port and not aware of version 4.2.
Just making sure I'm not nuts.....and that you are! : )

Thanks

 

[senk1s]

maybe i'm a little nuts ... but here are details in less confusing language

CICS version 4.1 and below:
In the cabinet, there are 2 RJ11 jacks, one for the RAD and one more for the analog station.
So essentially the capacity of stations is 16 digital + 1 analog

Later versions:
When you buy a CICS cabinet along with 4.2, 6.0, 6.1 software, the cabinet has only one RJ11 jack (for the RAD labelled by a sequence of 111000)

There was no CICS 5.0 (for a MICS 5.0), but it was called 4.2

Pls dont ask me for NT #s, i dont remember those

 

[sprucegrover]

For current CICS versions, the IATA pinout (port 117) is on pair 20 of the trunk cable. All software versions support this feature.
The RJ connector on the cabinet is a serial connector which has no current function.
The Emergeny Telephone (power fail) pinout is on pair 17 of the same cable

From the Nortel Document CD

I-ATA and I-RAD are not physically connected
to the ICS #1 25-pair connector.
The internal analog terminal adaptor (I-ATA) is
wired on the ICS #2 connector along with the
external lines and equipment for music and
paging. The internal remote access device
(I-RAD) appears on port 118 but has no wired
connection.

 

[MarvO1]

senk1s, you had me scared. Thought maybe the IATA I'm using on my 6.0 CICS might be a phantom IATA or something. I have never seen a CICS with more than 1 RJ-11. What part of the world are you located it. I'm finally learning that equipment around the world varies.

MarvO said it

 

[galfaro]

I just installed a CICS on Saturday, 6.1 software, and used the internal ATA (YL/SL pair on the trunk side) and it worked fine. I have the same set up at home on a 4.0 software, and it also works fine. I have never seen a CICS come without an internal ATA.
Anyone?
Gabriel

 

[senk1s]

this 4.2 was installed the US ...
we got this confirmation from an 'expert' nortel guy
will have to double check i guess ...

My bad brigning in the solution without verifying it, and thanks sprucegrover for correcting the mistake