okay this works fine from inside the network, the minute anyone tries from outside they are getting a 10061 ISA connection refused error. SSL is set up and everything else works fine, I have gone through all kinds of articles on how to configure SSL for OWA and everything appears to be setup correctly. So any ideas what is going wrong? I have applied the hotfix for password pages from MS on the Exchange server, does it need to go on the ISA server as well?