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CD-ROM making weird noises?

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carpeliam

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Mar 17, 2000
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Thanks to those of you who helped me out with my fried motherboard- I have a new motherboard now, and my modem's installed also. If you read that thread, you might have noticed that I said there was a problem with my CD-ROM. Now that I have time to address that, I think I just might.<br><br>When I boot up, I hear a strange noise.. as if a piece of paper was stuck in a gear or something. I'm pretty sure that's not it, though, as a piece of paper is not likely to be in there.<br><br>Recently, when I put a CD in there, it gets really excited (about as excited as CD-RW drives can get).. I get a blue screen of death that informs me that my perfectly clean CD likely needs to be cleaned. The drive then proceeds to move very rapidly in cycles. It didn't do this a few weeks ago..<br><br>Before I tried installing my modem, I installed a second hard-drive... At the time, I unplugged all ribbon cables and power cables from all my drives, HD FD and CD-ROMs... might I have plugged something back in incorrectly? What else could it be? Thanks all for any information.. <p>Liam Morley<br><a href=mailto:lmorley@wpi.edu>lmorley@wpi.edu</a><br><a href=] :: imotic :: website :: [</a><br>"light the deep, and bring silence to the world.<br>
light the world, and bring depth to the silence."
 
well, if this has anything to do with your fried Mobo, you sure the drive didnt by some chance get a gear knocked off, I'd try shaking the Cdrom (gentally) and see if it rattles or not, but if you want to try, you can change the cables around, but if it shows up on the BIOS screen when you bootup, it should be fine as far as cable connection goes.have you reinstalled windows also since the time you replaced your motherboard? <p>Karl<br><a href=mailto:kb244@kb244.8m.com>kb244@kb244.8m.com</a><br><a href= </a><br>Experienced in : C++(both VC++ and Borland),VB1(dos) thru VB6, Delphi 3 pro, HTML, Visual InterDev 6(ASP(WebProgramming/Vbscript)<br>
 
well, the CDROM making noise was happening before my fried motherboard, so I don't think that's it... it shows up on boot, but there's something that shows up about a cable with the primary IDE... something with &quot;(80)&quot;, which doesn't make sense to me... it goes by faster than I can read, really. But I'll play around with some things, maybe shake it just a bit... thanks. I'll post how things come along. <p>Liam Morley<br><a href=mailto:lmorley@wpi.edu>lmorley@wpi.edu</a><br><a href=] :: imotic :: website :: [</a><br>"light the deep, and bring silence to the world.<br>
light the world, and bring depth to the silence.
 
Anytime you want to view the info going by on your screen, look at what goes by before that, and as the POST and LOAD process gets to the point you wish to read, get ready to hit your pause key, on the upper right side of the keyoard, to stop the process and read the screen.&nbsp;&nbsp;As to your CD prob, make sure the ribbon cable's red side (or blue if it's an old cable) is closest to the power connector.&nbsp;&nbsp;And pay attention to KB, he's pretty good... By the way, to continue your POST andd LOAD, just hit the pause key again...
 
Have generally found that noises coming from the tray mechanism indicate gear / drive problems, and that they progressively get worse until they finally totally die. Can be anything from gearmesh problems to slippage of gear shaft. And any of then can cause the tray to not fully insert leading to read failures. Know that R/W is expensive, but you probably will best be served by planning replacement. <p>Ed Fair<br><a href=mailto: > </a><br><a href= > </a><br>
 
but this drive was a Christmas present from last year... *lol* I'm not buying a new drive after 7 months. ahhh.... I love HP. <p>Liam Morley<br><a href=mailto:lmorley@wpi.edu>lmorley@wpi.edu</a><br><a href=] :: imotic :: website :: [</a><br>"light the deep, and bring silence to the world.<br>
light the world, and bring depth to the silence.
 
understand the feeling. how about warranty? <p>Ed Fair<br><a href=mailto: > </a><br><a href= > </a><br>
 
If you even get to the &quot;Blue Screen&quot; then the machine is recognizing the drive meaning that your problem should not be one of connectivity. Could be that a little extra juice passed through that power cable when the mobo fried.<br>Get a new drive. <p>Al<br><a href=mailto: atc-computing@home.com> atc-computing@home.com</a><br><a href= > </a><br>
 
hmm thats a good point, got another Power Supply laying around(250Watt should suffice if you got one of those old Socket7 boards AT, and they're usally 30-50$) <p>Karl<br><a href=mailto:kb244@kb244.8m.com>kb244@kb244.8m.com</a><br><a href= </a><br>Experienced in : C++(both VC++ and Borland),VB1(dos) thru VB6, Delphi 3 pro, HTML, Visual InterDev 6(ASP(WebProgramming/Vbscript)<br>
 
But the problem was there before the motherboard fried... <p>Liam Morley<br><a href=mailto:lmorley@wpi.edu>lmorley@wpi.edu</a><br><a href=] :: imotic :: website :: [</a><br>"light the deep, and bring silence to the world.<br>
light the world, and bring depth to the silence.
 
Then I guess the drive was hosed before the mobo! <p>Al<br><a href=mailto: atc-computing@home.com> atc-computing@home.com</a><br><a href= > </a><br>
 
my best guess is that when I installed my second HD, I must have plugged in the wrong cable or I plugged it in the wrong way... because I never had problems with it before that, and it's only a few months old..<br><br>I get this error message on boot:<br><FONT FACE=monospace>primary IDE channel no 80 conductor cable installed</font><br><br>I haven't had a chance to open up my box yet... could somebody give me a better clue as to what I should do? Thanks... <p>Liam Morley<br><a href=mailto:lmorley@wpi.edu>lmorley@wpi.edu</a><br><a href=] :: imotic :: website :: [</a><br>"light the deep, and bring silence to the world.<br>
light the world, and bring depth to the silence.
 
What it seems is that we have a cabling/jumper problem here.<br>What have U set up Ur CD rom drive as Primary Master/slave/Secondary master/slave etc.<br><br>On most machines that have a hdd and a CD the HDD is set as Primary master and CD as primary slave by the appropriate jumper settings.<br><br>Check out if Ur new HDD and the CD are having the same jumper setting i.e are both set to slave.<br><br>Could U also update which drive is et as what primary/sec master/slave in ur next post<br><br>As fort the noise I think it's just due to some gear problem etc but I guess its nothing to be too worried aboout. I once had a 2X which made a lotta noise but it worked real fine.<br><br>Adios<br>amit<br> <p> amit<br><a href=mailto: crazy_indian@mailcity.com> crazy_indian@mailcity.com</a><br><a href= > </a><br>to bug is human to debug devine
 
Hey Imotic, does that mobo use UDMA 66? If so, it should have come with an 80 conductor ribbon cable (blue on one end, black on the other). It has the standard 40 pin connector, but actually has 80 wires for attenuation control at high data speeds. The blue end gets plugged into the board. This might be the source of your error message.<br><br>P.S.- didn't you replace that CD ROM yet?? <p>Al<br><a href=mailto: atc-computing@home.com> atc-computing@home.com</a><br><a href= > </a><br>
 
&quot;but actually has 80 wires for attenuation control at high data speeds&quot;<br><br>Attenuation control?&nbsp;&nbsp;Thanks for a good laugh after a long day's work, AT.<br><br>The technology goes back AT LEAST to 1978.&nbsp;&nbsp;I say &quot;at least&quot;, because I can't believe that I was the first one to think of using the trick, but the data bus in the planetarium dome in the Hong Kong Space Museum uses a 400 foot ribbon cable data bus implemented the same way as U66.
 
Dear Immotic,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;No need to panic, This is a very usual problem with Drives. The head alignment of the drive is lost. You can get it rectified for a very cheap price.
 
All right, allright, I can make mistakes. Attenuation is of course the breakdown of signal over distance; which hopefully is not an issue with most PCs. Crosstalk is what I meant to say. <p>Al<br><a href=mailto: atc-computing@home.com> atc-computing@home.com</a><br><a href= > </a><br>
 
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