a client on the outside int can ping the global address that is translated to my real IP address of the server on the inside, but when I try to ftp from the dos prompt from the the outside client it gives connection timed out. But the outside client can connect to another server on the inside, to use a different application. Anyone got any ideas, the whole setup worked in the test network but when I installed it for real the ftp error happens. The clients do come through a router before they hit the firewall. please help I'm pulling me hair out over this one.