Can I use a Router in this way.......? 2

[Guaicaipuro]

Hi
I need help for this problem:
I have a peer-to-peer network with 7 PC's (Windows 98 SE and TCP/IP) connected to a HUB. I connect a Router-ADSL to the hub with a straight forward cable, for internet access. The network it's workinfg fine, but no PC can access the internet.
Can I use the router in this way?
If so what's wrong in the configuration?

Thanks in advance

 

[MaxPipeline]

Can you ping the router? Also you mention you plugged a DSL router into your hub with a straight-through Enet cable. Does your router have a hub or something built-in? If so then hub-to-hub requires a crossover cable or the cable must be plugged into an uplink port on either the router or the hub (but not both).

 

[CitrixEngineer]

Yes - that is part of the point of a router.

Make sure that all the PCs on your network "know" the address of your ISP's DNS servers. You can do this either by configuring the DHCP server on your router (if there is one), or by entering it statically into the PCs IP stack.

Hope this helps

 

[Guaicaipuro]

Thanks CitrixEngineer and MaxPipeline for your fast response.

I plugged the ADSL-Router that yes have a hub built-in with a Straight-trough cable. The Router don't have un upink port. The network HUB have an uplink port.
I can ping the router with success.
I don't know how to configure the DHCP server on the router.

That's the situation.

 

[kippy13]

Can u configure the PC's to use the router as the default gateway and also to get ip address automatically.
More than likely the router is automatically configured for dhcp(as u can ping it from the other machines already)
Just try it as a test on one of the machines first.
The fact that u can ping the router from all machines also means that the type of cabling is correct.

"Sometimes I do not know but I try hard"- R.F. Haughty 1923

 

[Guaicaipuro]

News:

My english it's not so good for that I DON'T know if i'm clear. But....

I have something new to say. When i connect and proceed with the router setup, automatically the network configuration change. The IP of the workstation change from 192.168.0.1 to automatic and for this reason the PC it's out of the network until I manually reconfigure it.

I dont have experience with routers.

Can someone make a resume; How connect a router to a HUB with a few PC's with Windows 98SE?

Thanks in advance!

 

[Freestone]

Post the make and model number of your router. Then perhaps readers may be able to find a manual online and assist you with configuration.

 

[Guaicaipuro]

The Modem-Router it's a Alcatel-Thomson 510 v4.

 

[computerwebdude]

Try connecting your ADSL, to the router only, and have a cable from the hub run to the ADSL.

Are these CPUS on the same network.

 

[kippy13]

BTW, how do u know that the internet is working fine?

"Sometimes I do not know but I try hard"- R.F. Haughty 1923

 

[Freestone]

Your PCs should be configured to use DHCP. If I'm reading correctly, you have them hard-coded in the 192.168.0.x subnet. Out the box, the router will serve out DHCP addresses starting at 10.0.0.1

 

[ceh4702]

DHCP will not work with One-Hop Protocols with the HUB in the middle. You would have to have a IP routable Protocol on each machine to get this to work. An example of this is IPX/SPX.

I think you may need to use static routing and turn off DHCP if that is what your network is using. You can only use one DHCP server/device. When you have a network server it needs static routing. There are other ways to do this probably. If you had a network object on your server configuration for the internet your browser could use this or point to this object or the object could redirect the PC to the internet IP or IP of the firewall/router. This may be configurable with DNS on the server. An example is if you make a name for the internet like MyInternt the name server can look up the IP and do the routing.

If you do not like my post feel free to point out your opinion or my errors.

 

[CitrixEngineer]

Fortunately TCP/IP is routable ;-)

In which case, DHCP is a good solution as you only need to configure the server, not the clients. The Alcatel-Thomson 510 v4 does support it, and you can update it via the web interface. I've never used this model, so you'll have to check your manual for instructions on how this is done.

You can define your own scope on the router, and, once the server is advertising its services on your network, the PCs will automatically pick up an IP address in that range instead of the default Microsoft range.

Hope This Helps

 

[Guaicaipuro]

THANKS, THANKS & THANKS

Now I have many things to study and try. I need sometime to tests then i come back to tell you all what happens.

Thanks again Guys.

 

[Guaicaipuro]

Here I'm again to thank all of you.
The problem is solved.
For the record: I follow the instructions of Freestone.

The router is working fine, the subnet also.

Merry Christmas to all of you and a Happy New Year friends.