Campus install

[RikRodgers]

I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this one, but I'm hoping someone out there knows something I don't.

I've quoted a local church / school with 3 buildings a new MICS and MCK fiber extenders to tie the buildings together.

Problem- they want to go with the phone system, but don't have any conduit between the buildings, and don't want to pay the money to have it installed.

They're currently using a P to P wireless antenna to feed network, and want to use that for the phones, too. VOIP.
The gateways I've priced out to feed 26 extensions to the other buildings are more expensive than the buried conduit.

Does anyone know of any way to actually extend a fiber mod over ip? If not, maybe we should put our heads together and design one.

Thanks.

 

[Crowtalks]

I thought the MCK Gateway only supported cordless phones at the remote location.

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[RikRodgers]

When I've programmed the IP OPX's on site, they appear as T7316's, and "NONE" if not in use. The customer always ships out extra sets to their remote employee's, so I've never had to go out to the remote site. Their IT dept has always been pretty good about that side.

 

[RikRodgers]

ptstechnician- can you contact me? I'm at rrodgers"at"uscominc.net

I'd like to work with you on this one.

 

[Itas1]

I agree with jerryreeves Ive been using the MCK product to tie to greenhouse operations together on a wireless bridge between the two locations.It works great just have to adjust the latencies every once in awhile to reduce echo.

 

[jerryreeve]

the gateways will work with either a Cell connection (I havent looked into that too much though) or connecting to a remote office for single, 8 16 or more 7XXX phones. the existing config I had was a gateway connecting to a MCK 4000 and a MCK6000. the 4000 was via internet and the 8 ports on the 6000 was via a dedicated T1.

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'Rule 29', "The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less."
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JerryReeve
Communication Systems Int'l
com-sys.com

 

[Crowtalks]

Thanks for clearing that up jerryreeve.

I'm familiar with the cellular setup, but wasn't aware of the 7000 series support.

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[jerryreeve]

I recently talked to a rep that was working on MESH network designs for cities and campus' (campi?) (the network access points would act as repeaters as well as access points and reduced the number of connections between the network and the access point network) their network was to utilize a nortel PBX with cell phone sharing. when the cell phones were within range of one of their access points the phone acted as an extension of the phone system with it's own DID, these calls used the cell phones secondary frequency, calls were handeled by the PBX systems. If the person was at their desk then they used their phone, same DID, and if they were out of the area they then used the cell phones as cell phones, incoming calls on the same DID were then routed to the cell phone on its primary frequencies, the customer handeled them as regular office calls including transfer etc. but outgoing calls used the cell phone network completely.

I thought it was quite a well setup and if I ever found a really rich customer I would suggest it to them.

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'Rule 29', "The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy. No more. No less."
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JerryReeve
Communication Systems Int'l
com-sys.com

 

[dmeche]

I would try point to point T1 between the buildings if they refuse to run conduit. Once they get a price from the local carrier on a T1 for that short a distnace they may opt for the conduit.

Try telling them that if they connect their buildings with fiber they can convert their routers or switches from the radio to the fiber. It will improve their computer connectivity AND solve their phone problem.

On old buildings, try to get a closet or whole room if you can manage on the outside wall as your entry point. That way you won't have conduit coming all the way up the wall and into the ceiling.

Is it too far to bury copper in a slit trench?

 

[RikRodgers]

You're preaching to the choir. We can't use a direct burial cable because we're going under a public road. Gotta be in pipe.

Thanks.