Calling/Connected Line Identity Restriction Override (CLIPRO) 1

[cuneyt2020]

Hi all,
We have BC12 SP6 system and want to activate Clir override feature...I checked ALEX and saw that, it's related with D12 ADC parameter of KSCAC.
I changed it to "1" but still i can not see the numbers restricted.
Is there any other procedure to activate it, or is it merket spesific?
Rgrds.

 

[whosrdaddy]

no,
this function is generalized in BC12, so it should work.
are you sure you are receiving clip? I mean, if you do an ISDN trace (suposing your public lines are SLP60) do you see the clip? (presentation restriction flag will be on offcourse)

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[cuneyt2020]

Hi whosrdady,

Normally i can get the A number who calls us, but if 'it's a restricted number, on DTS i see "public" word..

I tested it by my mobile phone... I called pstn number of my DTS and saw my mobile number on DTS , and when i hided my mobile number, MD110 couldn't decode the number and showed as "public" number even the D12 value is 1 of KSCAC ADC

Is there sth. wrong with the configurations below?
[tt]

<RODAP:rou=7;
ROUTE DATA
ROU TYPE VARC VARI VARO FILTER
7 SL60 H'00000310 H'14400000 H'04010000 NO

END

<ROCAP:rou=7;
ROUTE CATEGORY DATA
ROU SEL TRM SERV NODG DIST DISL TRAF SIG BCAP
7 7110000000000010 4 2100100001 0 30 128 00151515 010100000030 111101

END

<KSCAP:dir=2919;
KEY SYSTEM CATEGORY PRINT
DIR TRAF SERV CDIV ROC ITYPE TRM ADC LANG BSEC
2919 00151515 0200120100 011081111 000001 20 0 00101003000101 F 0

[/tt]

 

[akademik]

Hi - Are you asking for Withheld numbers to be displayed? If so I understand that this facility would only be available to the relevant authority, i.e. emergency service operators or the police.

If I withhold my number I don't expect anyone to be able to see it. #-)

Thanks

Paul

 

[whosrdaddy]

yes that's it akademik, but do understand that those authorities are also using a standard PBX.
when you withhold your number, in reality the number is sent but with a presentation restriction flag. it is up to the receiver device to take that flag into account or not...

Cuneyt,

I don't see anything wrong with your config.
make an ISDN trace to make sure the clip is really sent.

STISR;
STUNI:UNIT=SLP60,LIM=x,MSKSIG=02&03&A1,STORE=YES; /* x is the lim where the trunks are - ROEDP
STTSI:TRI=1;

paste the printout of the STRAP:TRI=1; here



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[PCLOP]

How do you know the values for MSKSIG?

 

[fcpli]

Daddy!

Actually there are 2 different "levels" of clir. The "normal" one is kind of "do not show my number" and the other one is "secret". Now, the CID is sent through all relevant PSTNs, but the last one won't send it at all. If the PBX user is e.g. police, they have to let also the last PSTN to send the CID, but with the flag up. The police does see the CID and a text "secret", if the number really is secret. In the "do not show my number" just the CID is shown (to the police) without any remarks, to a normal PBX in both cases just "public" is shown. Usually from a mobile just this is the case. This is why the CID is not and cannot be shown to a conventional PBX. Agree?

FYI: Just check patch (BC10, but it is all the same also with the later versions)83282.

br

 

[whosrdaddy]

totaly agree fcpli.

PCLOP,
I'm working for 8 years with the MD, it's called experience. Anyway the msksig values are the SIGNO'S for these signals :

DLRDATALONG
DLIDATALONG
DLIUIDATALONG

these are the ones interpreted by Signal trace interpreter from SAM toolbox...

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[cuneyt2020]

Hi,
As well as i understood, i should see the number of my mobile phone, as it's hidden by myself. shouldn't i?

What i want to know is, does it depend to telecom operator, not to use this facility in MD110 or is it possible for me to see the hidden numbers if it's configured in right way.

BTW, i will repeat the test with my mobile phone and try to get slp60 trace but we have 6 pri's to telecom, so i'll try to block 5 of them in a non-busy hour..And decode it in tlu tracer and paste it here.

Rgrds.

 

[cuneyt2020]

Hi again,
I blocked 4 of them and had 2 pris active working. And got the trace and decoded it. Here is the part of a decoded result.Is it enough to understand the problem, or non-decoded data is needed?



0.08.05.380
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #F03
Message: SETUP
Bearer Capability
Coding Standard: CCITT
Information transfer capability: Speech
Transfer mode: Circuit mode
Information transfer rate: 64 kbit/s
User information layer 1 protocol: CCITT G.711 A-Law
B-Channel: 22
Calling Party Number
Type of number: Unknown
Numbering plan: ISDN/telephony numbering plan
Presentation indicator: Presentation allowed
Screening indicator: Network provided
Digits: 05359882323
Called Party Number
Type of number: Subscriber number
Numbering plan: ISDN/telephony numbering plan
Digits: 2467

10.08.05.440
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #F03
Message: CALL PROCEEDING
B-Channel: 22

10.08.05.960
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #F03
Message: ALERTING
Progress Indicator
Coding Standard: CCITT standardized coding
Location: Private network serving the local user
Progress Description: In-band information is now available

10.08.06.960
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #74E
Message: DISCONNECT
Cause: Normal call clearing

10.08.07.260
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #74E
Message: RELEASE

10.08.07.280
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #74E
Message: RELEASE COMPLETE

10.08.07.920
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #74F
Message: CONNECT

10.08.08.000
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #74F
Message: CONNECT ACKNOWLEDGE

10.08.09.620
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #F4A
Message: DISCONNECT
Cause: Normal call clearing

10.08.09.700
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #F03
Message: CONNECT
Progress Indicator
Coding Standard: CCITT standardized coding
Location: Private network serving the local user
Progress Description: Destination address is non ISDN

10.08.09.760
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #F03
Message: CONNECT ACKNOWLEDGE

10.08.09.820
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #F4A
Message: RELEASE

10.08.09.820
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #F4A
Message: RELEASE COMPLETE

10.08.09.880
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #74F
Message: DISCONNECT
Cause: Normal call clearing

10.08.10.260
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #74F
Message: RELEASE

10.08.10.280
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #F8B
Message: DISCONNECT
Cause: Normal call clearing

10.08.10.280
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #74F
Message: RELEASE COMPLETE

10.08.10.340
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #F8B
Message: RELEASE

10.08.10.420
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #F8B
Message: RELEASE COMPLETE

10.08.10.580
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #798
Message: SETUP
Bearer Capability
Coding Standard: CCITT
Information transfer capability: Speech
Transfer mode: Circuit mode
Information transfer rate: 64 kbit/s
User information layer 1 protocol: CCITT G.711 A-Law
B-Channel: 30
Calling Party Number
Type of number: Unknown
Numbering plan: Unknown
Presentation indicator: Presentation restricted
Screening indicator: Network provided
Called Party Number
Type of number: Subscriber number
Numbering plan: ISDN/telephony numbering plan
Digits: 2919

10.08.10.640
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #798
Message: CALL PROCEEDING
B-Channel: 30

10.08.11.200
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #798
Message: ALERTING
Progress Indicator
Coding Standard: CCITT standardized coding
Location: Private network serving the local user
Progress Description: In-band information is now available

10.08.13.360
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #798
Message: CONNECT
Progress Indicator
Coding Standard: CCITT standardized coding
Location: Private network serving the local user
Progress Description: Destination address is non ISDN

10.08.13.460
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #798
Message: CONNECT ACKNOWLEDGE

10.08.13.640
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #65A
Message: DISCONNECT
Cause: Normal call clearing

10.08.13.860
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #65A
Message: RELEASE

10.08.13.880
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #65A
Message: RELEASE COMPLETE

10.08.14.260
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #750
Message: CONNECT

10.08.14.300
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #750
Message: CONNECT ACKNOWLEDGE

10.08.14.820
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #798
Message: DISCONNECT
Cause: Normal call clearing

10.08.15.020
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #798
Message: RELEASE

10.08.15.020
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #798
Message: RELEASE COMPLETE

10.08.16.580
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #CAE
Message: SETUP
Bearer Capability
Coding Standard: CCITT
Information transfer capability: 3.1 kHz audio
Transfer mode: Circuit mode
Information transfer rate: 64 kbit/s
User information layer 1 protocol: CCITT G.711 A-Law
B-Channel: 10
Progress Indicator
Coding Standard: CCITT standardized coding
Location: Public network serving the local user
Progress Description: Origination address is non ISDN
Calling Party Number
Type of number: National number
Numbering plan: ISDN/telephony numbering plan
Presentation indicator: Presentation allowed
Screening indicator: Network provided
Digits: 03423356565
Called Party Number
Type of number: Subscriber number
Numbering plan: ISDN/telephony numbering plan
Digits: 1903

10.08.16.640
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #CAE
Message: CALL PROCEEDING
B-Channel: 10

10.08.16.900
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #CAE
Message: DISCONNECT
Cause: User busy

10.08.17.000
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #56E
Message: DISCONNECT
Cause: Normal call clearing

10.08.17.020
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #CAE
Message: RELEASE

10.08.17.040
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #CAE
Message: RELEASE COMPLETE

10.08.17.220
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #56E
Message: RELEASE

10.08.17.220
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #56E
Message: RELEASE COMPLETE

10.08.21.600
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #C16
Message: DISCONNECT
Cause: Normal call clearing

10.08.21.760
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #C16
Message: RELEASE

10.08.21.780
-> Outgoing
Call Reference: #C16
Message: RELEASE COMPLETE

10.08.22.220
<- Incoming
Call Reference: #924
Message: SETUP
Bearer Capability
Coding Standard: CCITT
Information transfer capability: Speech
Transfer mode: Circuit mode
Information transfer rate: 64 kbit/s
User information layer 1 protocol: CCITT G.711 A-Law
B-Channel: 23
Progress Indicator
Coding Standard: CCITT standardized coding
Location: Public network serving the local user
Progress Description: Origination address is non ISDN
Calling Party Number
Type of number: National number
Numbering plan: ISDN/telephony numbering plan
Presentation indicator: Presentation allowed
Screening indicator: Network provided
Digits: 02122435980
Called Party Number
Type of number: Subscriber number
Numbering plan: ISDN/telephony numbering plan
Digits: 1257

 

[fcpli]

This is clear. There is one incoming call with "presentation restricted" flag up, and the PSTN does NOT send the CID, so you can not show it in the DTS display.
All other calls in the trace are with flag down, so these numbers can be seen.

fcpli

 

[cuneyt2020]

Hi fcpli,
Do you mean, this feature depends on telecom provider?

 

[whosrdaddy]

could be that the provider PBX sees the restricted flag and decides not to send the clip

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[fcpli]

cuney: yes

 

[cuneyt2020]

Hi daddy,
Then is it possible to get this CID info by changing category of route parameter?
For exp, I changed route serv D9 to "1" , as if the pstn supports this facility (request A number from pstn...)
And i made a test call, but in this case when i called my DTS , from mobile phone, there is a silence, and after 1 minute later, i got -"call not allowed" message - on my mobile phone regardless of my number is restricted(hidden) or not. I mean no inbound call to Md110 is possible after changing serv d9 digit to "1"
Maybe, by changing some parameters, md can get this info from Telecom??
What do you think so?

 

[fcpli]

cuney:
You can change any parameter in your MD, unfortunately the result is always the same. If you don't see the CID in SETUP message, MD is not able to create it, it is not a lottery machine. Believe me, this won't work before the PSTN sends the CID, flag up or down.

 

[whosrdaddy]

agreed fcpli!

cuneyt try to discuss this problem with your provider...

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[fcpli]

daddy:
thanks, should we give each other a star?

fcpli

 

[whosrdaddy]

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[cuneyt2020]

Ok.. Thanks a lot for your helps..

What about request A number feature? What does this feature do? Can you help me?
Thx.