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Buying a new phone system, need some guidance... 1

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tdoom15

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Jan 9, 2013
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Here is our situation: We are an outbound call facility that sells advertising in 4 different states and we just purchased a building that is a complete blank shell and construction should be done in about 6 weeks. We currently have an old Samsung IDCS 100 phone system that we have been using for many years. It does nothing special except allow us to transfer calls between desks and is reliable. We don't use voicemail or anything else. Recently we learned of the ability to change our outbound caller ID to match the area we are calling in...for instance: If we are calling from Indiana to Illinois...instead of our area code coming up as 317 (indy), it would come up as 815 (ill). This is important to us and has made us decide to purchase a new phone system.

Here are our needs:
- Ability to change outbound caller ID
(Ideally by pressing a button on the phone to select which outbound area code to select and having up to 3 ppl able to use that same area code at once)
- Caller ID would be nice
- Ability to transfer calls between front desk to sales floor
- Handle approximately 45 users (currently about 30)
- RELIABLE

I've spent the last week contacting many different companies and have kind of narrowed it down to 2 based on features and what I believe their competence level to be, one hosted and one on premise system.

Hosted: Dialing Innovations ( location is in the same town as us)
$55/mo per line (probably 30 lines) = $1650/mo
Their custom built switch and router = $1500
1 T1 line (until we expand to need 2) = $300/mo
Cable internet for normal internet usage/redundancy = $60/mo
We can choose any phones we'd like = $5000


On Premise: Star2Star Phone system (Star2Star License/ports and 2250 Box = $3,292
Phones: Yealink T-38G @ $170x6 = $1,020
Yealink T-22p @ $87.5x40 = $3,500
Star2Star software per phone = $45x42 = $1,890
Cisco SG300-28P switches @ $694x2 = $1,392
Installation: $5,432
Total: $16,836

MONTHLY:
Service from Star2Star = $545
1 T1 line for now = $300
Cable Internet for normal useage/redundancy = $60
Yearly Mainteance = $2,717


Any thoughts or opinions would be great. I've read as many reviews on the hardware and services as I can, but I default to the more knowledgeable users here. The hosted seems pretty straight forward, however the on premise options seem endless and I'm not sure what is industry standard as far as service, cost, etc...Any help would appreciated.
 
westi makes a good point as well

we have a preprinted references with 10+ customers on it that we distribute at every sales call

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Avaya/Toshiba/Nortel

ACIS
 
Again, I appreciate the feedback from everyone.

It sounds like we may be going the star2star route, for one simple reason - cost. Our phone bill now with pots lines is about 1800/mo. From the couple of people I've talked to (please correct me if I am wrong), it sounds like if we buy a system (snom, cisco, avaya, etc), we need to also purchase the call paths and monthly service. The prices, to include our outbound caller ID to show up as the same area we are calling is $15/mo + $.025/minute for long distance?! At apprx 5000 minutes per 25 sales people, that comes out to $3,125 just in long distance charges! Is that about on par with what I can expect for cost of service?

With the Star2Star system, we are allowed 15 outbound area codes, with unlimited calling and 42 call paths (almost double what we have now) for $596.91/mo (+300 for T1). Our ROI on the system is about 22 months, and at that point we will be paying about half of our current phone bill. If all my assumptions are correct, then I think we will be forced to roll the dice with Star2Star (it can't be that bad if pizza hut, dollar general, KFC use it...can it?), put in the best infastructure we can, and pray for the best.

By the way I completely agree about being locked into a vendor for service, and while a concern...my sister went to church/school with his son for many years, and we did not figure it out until after I took him to be pretty competent.

Any other insight is much appreciated. Especially any on star2star.
 
wow your LD calling is pretty substantial, with SIP trunks you can have as many area codes as your provider will give you numbers (you pay for each of course) and LD is really not an issue as most SIP providers will give you North America calling along with the channels you purchase. Outgoing caller ID you can also adjust on a PRI if the provider lets you do it but SIP trunks are the cheaper solution.
Yes you need the trunks if you buy a system but if you pay about $600 month on SIP trunks plus maybe another $100 for additional area code numbers then you are set for trunk costs on SIP so then play it through again with a new system that belongs to you and comes with a year warranty and if you add another $800 for hardware failures for a 3 year contract then you are set for that.
Add this all up and get some serious quotes from several vendors and line providers and do your math again with that in mind.

Joe W.

FHandw, ACSS (SME), ACIS (SME)



Give a tech a solution and he will be back tomorrow to ask you the next question, teach a tech how to read the manual and he will be able to solve the problems for a life time.
 
My 2 cents about the UCx, but I am sure this applies to some other systems such as Digium (Asterisk) out there too.

For 30 users (to grow to 45), this seems to be pretty expensive. With UCx + VoIP.ms trunks, you would get
a) Ability to set the outbound caller ID to anything you want
b) Inbound caller ID
c) The same phones/switches that you selected (if you want them for some specific reason)
d) Significant reduction of the total cost
e) Significant reduction of the monthly cost

I've heard from a lot of resources that VOIP.MS is a great route to go.



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Hey hows it going? I just came across this post, Did you end up getting set up yet? If not check into BroadConnect USA, They are the fastest growing VoIP, Hosted, SIP provider in the Canada & the USA, They offer a very high end & secure service,
I just went on the site and did a rough calculation & the numbers seem good for you.
just for the phones you are looking at 20$ a line and they have a ton of options.

BroadConnect Brill, For all your VoIP needs check out
 
Our hosted only charges $5 per user;)

ddcommllc.com
Avaya/Toshiba/SyntelSolutions

ACIS

"Will work for stars
 
And it includes all of your premium features :)



ddcommllc.com
Avaya/Toshiba/SyntelSolutions

ACIS

"Will work for stars
 
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