Basic indesign spot color question 1

[alsmit99]

I've created a white image in illustrator that is CMYK. I have placed it in an Indesign document. I want it to print as the white paper, not a CMYK build of white. How do I go about doing this? Thanks for any help.

 

[jimoblak]

How do you build white from CMYK?

 

[alsmit99]

You tell me. In Illustrator, I took a logo that was pms 3015, changed it to white. When i place it Indesign, it says that it is built with CMYK.....

I guess the question is, how do I place a "white" logo, but have it print as the paper it is being printed on.

 

[jmgalvin]

CMYK "White" equals C-0, M-0, Y-0, K-0, meaning no color. The "white" from AI equals "paper" in INDD.

Using OSX 10.3.9 on a G4

 

[alsmit99]

The preflight is stating that there is a CMYK image within the document. When I delete the logo, the preflight CMYK is gone.

 

[jmgalvin]

Of course it is. If you make any image in AI, or any image app, the color mode is recorded on the save - cmyk, rgb, etc.

When it's placed in INDD, that mode is noted.

Using OSX 10.3.9 on a G4

 

[alsmit99]

so, although the Preflight is stating that there is a CMYK image, when i send it to a service provider, it's going to print PMS+Black/0, not as PMS+Black+CMYK/0?

 

[jmgalvin]

Where do you come up with a PMS? White means "print nothing on the white paper where the color is designated as white".

Using OSX 10.3.9 on a G4

 

[RegistrationMark]

As long as your white illustrator file is not set to overprint nor a spot color, the "white" is the color of your substrate. Your service provider will know to print 4 color unless you've specified a spot color in addition to the 4 color process.
Mark

 

[alsmit99]

Sorry for the confusion. I have 2 logos; both designed in Illustrator - one being PMS 3015, the other white. Both have been placed into an Indesign document. There is black type in the document. I want the document to print P+K/0, no CMYK so it is cheaper.

When i did a preflight, it was telling me the white logo was CMYK, hence the confusion. Form what I am gathering, the service provider will know to print the white logo as paper, so it will be produced as 2/0, not 4p+P/0.

 

[apepp]

...this indy thread I responded to touches on the cmyk/spot scenario:

http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1372083&page=2

...this illy thread I responded too also touches on the cmyk/spot logo scenario:

http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1374962&page=1

Andrew

 

[jimoblak]

one being PMS 3015, the other white.

Why not make both of them PMS 3015? One would be tinted at 100% and the other at 0%.

 

[alsmit99]

didn't think of that, but that is a good idea; still was wondering why Indesign's preflight was showing that though. thanks all for the help

 

[operamatic]

I shows cmyk because there wasn't a spot "white" hence when outputting a blank c0m0y0k0 "paper" nothing will print, when submitting to printer specify you want, say 2 colour, spot and black they will understand that if they have a even a basic level of print knowledge. Or do what jimoblak says and assign 0% of the pantone to the white area.

 

[jdguru]

Change the white in Illustator from c=0, m=0, y=0, k=0 to grayscale white. That is only k=0. Then indesign's preflight will not show cmyk.

jdguru