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Avaya ISDN tie to NEC IPX2400 2
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Well we thought we had it. We had an ISDN trunk between the NEC and the Avaya.
We can get calls from the NEC to the Avaya but we cant get calls from the Avaya to th NEC. The calls hit the trunk but we get "denial even 1195 circ/channel unavail".
Called Avaya and they sugguested we set it up as a TIE trunk with wink/wink instead of a standard isdn-pri trunk. We tried it and all of the b-channels go into inservice-active. We cant get calls through either way now.
Any advice? It's been a few years since I had to troubleshoot a T1 so I'm sure I'm missing something here.
We can get calls from the NEC to the Avaya but we cant get calls from the Avaya to th NEC. The calls hit the trunk but we get "denial even 1195 circ/channel unavail".
Called Avaya and they sugguested we set it up as a TIE trunk with wink/wink instead of a standard isdn-pri trunk. We tried it and all of the b-channels go into inservice-active. We cant get calls through either way now.
Any advice? It's been a few years since I had to troubleshoot a T1 so I'm sure I'm missing something here.
Thanks Simreal,
Right now we are getting "OOS/FE-PINS-idle" state on the Avaya side using NI-2 protocol. Here's the Avaya DS1 settings. We've tried various interface settings of peer-master/slave & network/user.
Bit Rate: 1.544 Line Coding: b8zs
Line Compensation: 1 Framing Mode: esf
Signaling Mode: isdn-pri
Connect: pbx Interface: user
TN-C7 Long Timers? y Country Protocol: 1
Interworking Message: PROGress Protocol Version: b
Interface Companding: mulaw CRC? n
Idle Code: 11111111
DCP/Analog Bearer Capability: 3.1kHz
Progress Indicator Value for SA8157: 1
T303 Timer(sec): 13
Slip Detection? y Near-end CSU Type: other
Right now we are getting "OOS/FE-PINS-idle" state on the Avaya side using NI-2 protocol. Here's the Avaya DS1 settings. We've tried various interface settings of peer-master/slave & network/user.
Bit Rate: 1.544 Line Coding: b8zs
Line Compensation: 1 Framing Mode: esf
Signaling Mode: isdn-pri
Connect: pbx Interface: user
TN-C7 Long Timers? y Country Protocol: 1
Interworking Message: PROGress Protocol Version: b
Interface Companding: mulaw CRC? n
Idle Code: 11111111
DCP/Analog Bearer Capability: 3.1kHz
Progress Indicator Value for SA8157: 1
T303 Timer(sec): 13
Slip Detection? y Near-end CSU Type: other
I couldn't get the tie trunk to work at all. The channels were showing in-service active and all calls failed both directions. I rolled back to setting it up as an ISDN trunk.
I back to being able to call from the NEC to the Avaya but I cant call Avaya to NEC.
Here is my ds1 setup: (I'll post my trunk setup in the next reply.
display ds1 8a14 Page 1 of 2
DS1 CIRCUIT PACK
Location: 08A14 Name: Tie to NEC
Bit Rate: 1.544 Line Coding: b8zs
Line Compensation: 1 Framing Mode: esf
Signaling Mode: isdn-pri
Connect: pbx Interface: network
TN-C7 Long Timers? n Country Protocol: 1
Interworking Message: PROGress Protocol Version: b
Interface Companding: mulaw CRC? n
Idle Code: 11111111
DCP/Analog Bearer Capability: 3.1kHz
T303 Timer(sec): 4
Slip Detection? n Near-end CSU Type: integrated
Echo Cancellation? n Block Progress Indicator? n
display ds1 8a14 Page 2 of 2
DS1 CIRCUIT PACK
ESF DATA LINK OPTIONS
Network Management Protocol: tabs
Send ANSI-T1.403 One-Second Performance Reports? n
Far-end CSU Address: b
INTEGRATED CSU OPTIONS
Transmit LBO: 0db
Receive ALBO: 26db
Upon DTE LOS: loopback
CPE LOOPBACK JACK OPTIONS
Supply CPE Loopback Jack Power? n
I back to being able to call from the NEC to the Avaya but I cant call Avaya to NEC.
Here is my ds1 setup: (I'll post my trunk setup in the next reply.
display ds1 8a14 Page 1 of 2
DS1 CIRCUIT PACK
Location: 08A14 Name: Tie to NEC
Bit Rate: 1.544 Line Coding: b8zs
Line Compensation: 1 Framing Mode: esf
Signaling Mode: isdn-pri
Connect: pbx Interface: network
TN-C7 Long Timers? n Country Protocol: 1
Interworking Message: PROGress Protocol Version: b
Interface Companding: mulaw CRC? n
Idle Code: 11111111
DCP/Analog Bearer Capability: 3.1kHz
T303 Timer(sec): 4
Slip Detection? n Near-end CSU Type: integrated
Echo Cancellation? n Block Progress Indicator? n
display ds1 8a14 Page 2 of 2
DS1 CIRCUIT PACK
ESF DATA LINK OPTIONS
Network Management Protocol: tabs
Send ANSI-T1.403 One-Second Performance Reports? n
Far-end CSU Address: b
INTEGRATED CSU OPTIONS
Transmit LBO: 0db
Receive ALBO: 26db
Upon DTE LOS: loopback
CPE LOOPBACK JACK OPTIONS
Supply CPE Loopback Jack Power? n
display trunk-group 50 Page 1 of 21
TRUNK GROUP
Group Number: 50 Group Type: isdn CDR Reports: y
Group Name: Tie to NEC COR: 95 TN: 3 TAC: #50
Direction: two-way Outgoing Display? y Carrier Medium: PRI/BRI
Dial Access? n Busy Threshold: 255 Night Service:
Queue Length: 0
Service Type: tie Auth Code? n TestCall ITC: rest
Far End Test Line No:
TestCall BCC: 4
display trunk-group 50 Page 2 of 21
Group Type: isdn
TRUNK PARAMETERS
Codeset to Send Display: 0 Codeset to Send National IEs: 6
Max Message Size to Send: 260 Charge Advice: none
Supplementary Service Protocol: a Digit Handling (in/out): enbloc/enbloc
Trunk Hunt: cyclical QSIG Value-Added? n
Digital Loss Group: 13
Incoming Calling Number - Delete: Insert: Format: unk-unk
Bit Rate: 1200 Synchronization: async Duplex: full
Disconnect Supervision - In? y Out? n
Answer Supervision Timeout: 0
display trunk-group 50 Page 3 of 21
TRUNK FEATURES
ACA Assignment? n Measured: both Wideband Support? n
Internal Alert? n Maintenance Tests? y
Data Restriction? n NCA-TSC Trunk Member:
Send Name: y Send Calling Number: y
Used for DCS? n Send EMU Visitor CPN? n
Suppress # Outpulsing? n Format: unk-pvt
Outgoing Channel ID Encoding: preferred UUI IE Treatment: service-provider
Replace Restricted Numbers? n
Replace Unavailable Numbers? n
Send Connected Number: y
Network Call Redirection: none Hold/Unhold Notifications? n
Send UUI IE? y Modify Tandem Calling Number? n
Send UCID? n
Send Codeset 6/7 LAI IE? y Ds1 Echo Cancellation? n
Apply Local Ringback? n US NI Delayed Calling Name Update? n
Network (Japan) Needs Connect Before Disconnect? n
and the trunk members are:
display trunk-group 50 Page 5 of 21
TRUNK GROUP
Administered Members (min/max): 1/23
GROUP MEMBER ASSIGNMENTS Total Administered Members: 23
Port Code Sfx Name Night Sig Grp
1: 08A1401 TN464 G 50
2: 08A1402 TN464 G 50
3: 08A1403 TN464 G 50
4: 08A1404 TN464 G 50
TRUNK GROUP
Group Number: 50 Group Type: isdn CDR Reports: y
Group Name: Tie to NEC COR: 95 TN: 3 TAC: #50
Direction: two-way Outgoing Display? y Carrier Medium: PRI/BRI
Dial Access? n Busy Threshold: 255 Night Service:
Queue Length: 0
Service Type: tie Auth Code? n TestCall ITC: rest
Far End Test Line No:
TestCall BCC: 4
display trunk-group 50 Page 2 of 21
Group Type: isdn
TRUNK PARAMETERS
Codeset to Send Display: 0 Codeset to Send National IEs: 6
Max Message Size to Send: 260 Charge Advice: none
Supplementary Service Protocol: a Digit Handling (in/out): enbloc/enbloc
Trunk Hunt: cyclical QSIG Value-Added? n
Digital Loss Group: 13
Incoming Calling Number - Delete: Insert: Format: unk-unk
Bit Rate: 1200 Synchronization: async Duplex: full
Disconnect Supervision - In? y Out? n
Answer Supervision Timeout: 0
display trunk-group 50 Page 3 of 21
TRUNK FEATURES
ACA Assignment? n Measured: both Wideband Support? n
Internal Alert? n Maintenance Tests? y
Data Restriction? n NCA-TSC Trunk Member:
Send Name: y Send Calling Number: y
Used for DCS? n Send EMU Visitor CPN? n
Suppress # Outpulsing? n Format: unk-pvt
Outgoing Channel ID Encoding: preferred UUI IE Treatment: service-provider
Replace Restricted Numbers? n
Replace Unavailable Numbers? n
Send Connected Number: y
Network Call Redirection: none Hold/Unhold Notifications? n
Send UUI IE? y Modify Tandem Calling Number? n
Send UCID? n
Send Codeset 6/7 LAI IE? y Ds1 Echo Cancellation? n
Apply Local Ringback? n US NI Delayed Calling Name Update? n
Network (Japan) Needs Connect Before Disconnect? n
and the trunk members are:
display trunk-group 50 Page 5 of 21
TRUNK GROUP
Administered Members (min/max): 1/23
GROUP MEMBER ASSIGNMENTS Total Administered Members: 23
Port Code Sfx Name Night Sig Grp
1: 08A1401 TN464 G 50
2: 08A1402 TN464 G 50
3: 08A1403 TN464 G 50
4: 08A1404 TN464 G 50
My sig group looks like this:
display signaling-group 50 Page 1 of 5
SIGNALING GROUP
Group Number: 50 Group Type: isdn-pri
Associated Signaling? y Max number of NCA TSC: 5
Primary D-Channel: 08A1424 Max number of CA TSC: 0
Trunk Group for NCA TSC: 50
Trunk Group for Channel Selection: 50
Supplementary Service Protocol: a Network Call Transfer? n
display signaling-group 50 Page 1 of 5
SIGNALING GROUP
Group Number: 50 Group Type: isdn-pri
Associated Signaling? y Max number of NCA TSC: 5
Primary D-Channel: 08A1424 Max number of CA TSC: 0
Trunk Group for NCA TSC: 50
Trunk Group for Channel Selection: 50
Supplementary Service Protocol: a Network Call Transfer? n
24PRT card on the NEC which is a 2400 IPX.
SWNO 00: off
SWNO 01:
-----SW01-0 off
-----SW01-1 off
-----SW01-2 off
-----SW01-3 off
SWNO 02:
-----1 AT&TBell
-----5 AT&TCommunication
SWNO 10:
-----SW010-1 on
-----SW010-2 off
-----SW010-3 off
-----SW010-4 on
SWNO 11
-----SW11-1 off
-----SW11-2 on
-----SW11-3 off
-----SW11-4 off
SWNO 12:
-----SW12-1 off
-----SW12-2 on
-----SW12-3 on
-----SW12-4 on
-----SW12-5 on
-----SW12-6 on
-----SW12-7 off
-----SW12-8 on
SWNO 13:
-----SW13-1 off
-----SW13-2 off
-----SW13-3 off
-----SW13-4 off
-----SW13-5 on
-----SW13-6 on
-----SW13-7 on
-----SW13-8 on
SWNO 14:
-----SW14-1 off
-----SW14-2 on
-----SW14-3 off
-----SW14-4 on
-----SW14-5 on
-----SW14-6 on
-----SW14-7 on
-----SW14-8 on
SWNO 15:
-----SW15-1 on
-----SW15-2 off
-----SW15-3 on
-----SW15-4 on
-----SW15-5 on
-----SW15-6 on
-----SW15-7 on
-----SW15-8 off
SWNO 00: off
SWNO 01:
-----SW01-0 off
-----SW01-1 off
-----SW01-2 off
-----SW01-3 off
SWNO 02:
-----1 AT&TBell
-----5 AT&TCommunication
SWNO 10:
-----SW010-1 on
-----SW010-2 off
-----SW010-3 off
-----SW010-4 on
SWNO 11
-----SW11-1 off
-----SW11-2 on
-----SW11-3 off
-----SW11-4 off
SWNO 12:
-----SW12-1 off
-----SW12-2 on
-----SW12-3 on
-----SW12-4 on
-----SW12-5 on
-----SW12-6 on
-----SW12-7 off
-----SW12-8 on
SWNO 13:
-----SW13-1 off
-----SW13-2 off
-----SW13-3 off
-----SW13-4 off
-----SW13-5 on
-----SW13-6 on
-----SW13-7 on
-----SW13-8 on
SWNO 14:
-----SW14-1 off
-----SW14-2 on
-----SW14-3 off
-----SW14-4 on
-----SW14-5 on
-----SW14-6 on
-----SW14-7 on
-----SW14-8 on
SWNO 15:
-----SW15-1 on
-----SW15-2 off
-----SW15-3 on
-----SW15-4 on
-----SW15-5 on
-----SW15-6 on
-----SW15-7 on
-----SW15-8 off
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As it turns out we could get a call from NEC to Avaya. For some reason when I was dialing a 4 digit extension the NEC was refusing to setup a channel for the call.
I changed ARDT to match a tie trunk to call manager that we have and its working correctly now.
We are now able to route all calls over to the NEC vie the tie trunk.
In ARDT the field was "DC". We had it set to 5 and we changed it to 15. apparently this effects the number of digits that will be translated by the NEC.
I changed ARDT to match a tie trunk to call manager that we have and its working correctly now.
We are now able to route all calls over to the NEC vie the tie trunk.
In ARDT the field was "DC". We had it set to 5 and we changed it to 15. apparently this effects the number of digits that will be translated by the NEC.
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