Alternatives to Avaya phones 2

[ThomasBB]

Hello,

We're pleased with our current crop of Avaya IP Phones (a mix of 1608, 1608I and 5610SW), but none of them support gigabit without an adapter. And we're forced to use our phones as 'switches' for our computers, since we're running low on "network plugs" in the walls.

We would love to upgrade our network to gigabit, but it wouldn't make sense because of the above-mentioned issue with our phones.

I know Avaya has made some phones (9611G ie.) that support gigabit, but those are pretty expensive.

Do you know of any cheap alternatives, that support gigabit? We're running IP Office 500.

Thanks in advance,
Thomas

 

[amriddle01]

Nope, those are your options. Any alternative would be 3rd party, so an expensive licence and basically no features above making , taking calls and trandsfers


Avaya Implementation Qualified Professional Specialist Technical Engineer (AIQPSTE)

 

[ThomasBB]

Well, that sucks. The 9611g are like three times as expensive as the 1608I we're currently buying.

Thanks for the answer, Mr. AIQPSTE (is that a real title?) ;-)

 

[amriddle01]

Not a real title, it's a bit of sarcasm based on Avaya's latest name for the IPO qualifications


Avaya Implementation Qualified Professional Specialist Technical Engineer (AIQPSTE)

 

[ThomasBB]

Fair enough. Still a cool title though!

And thanks for the help

 

[sizbut]

Putting in the cabling and switches is always going to be the better and more flexible solution. And that's not just because the Gb phones are too expensive. You're already knocking your head against the limitations of your physical network - the phones, even if made cheaper, won't fix that - they would just delay the crisis if you keeping adding more kit that needs a connection (and just about everything does these days - even the coffee maker).


Stuck in a never ending cycle of file copying.

 

[gwebster]

If you are not going to upgrade your network to support GigE, then you do not need phones which support GigE. If your network is only 10/100, then installing a Gig-E-capable phone will still only effectively provide 10/100 service to any PC which connects through it.

 

[tlpeter]

Sizbut is right.
You should never ever put a phone in between when you want gigabit speed.
Even 100 mbit and a phone in between will prevent getting the full speed.
It will always give priority to voice and steel bandwidth.


BAZINGA!

I'm not insane, my mother had me tested!

 

[intrigrant]

The bandwith used for IP calls and signalling is at max 200 Kb, on a 100 Mb link that is 0,002% of the total bandwith.... Oeps I will notice that for sure.

A simple mind delivers great solutions

 

[intrigrant]

A simple mind delivers great solutions

 

[tlpeter]

Actually Australia has more people on a square kilometer then where we live
It is much bigger but less space where you can actually live with more people.
Those gigabit phones will squeeze the bandwidth even when it has nothing to do.
I tried it myself at home and i was surprised.


BAZINGA!

I'm not insane, my mother had me tested!

 

[ThomasBB]

If you are not going to upgrade your network to support GigE, then you do not need phones which support GigE. If your network is only 10/100, then installing a Gig-E-capable phone will still only effectively provide 10/100 service to any PC which connects through it.

Well of course. We're not gonna upgrade our network, if our phones are gonna hold back our PC's anyways. If there was a way to get cheap Avaya IP phones with gigabit, we would upgrade it.