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98SE Can't access my secondary hard drive 1

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dltaz

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Feb 23, 2003
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I installed a new hard drive as Master and reinstalled clean 98SE on it. Intended to transfer my data files and reformat the second drive. The bios and windows device manager both register both the hard drives but the secondary drive doesn't show up with a drive designation. I can reboot and go into the bios and change the boot selection to the second (my original) drive and then boot up fine. Then I have my original drive with all data and then cannot see the other drive as it has no designation for access. It is an either or situation and I cannot figure out how to get the two on the same system. Strange but true. Please help.
 
Are you sure you set the jumper to Slave on your second hard disk ?
 
yes, I actually reset the drives to try the option settings from Western Digital. They were jumpered with one jumper each. The option was two jumpers each for larger drives. The Master shunts 5&6 and 1&2 and the slave 3&4 and 1&2. I use the bios setup to select the drive I want to boot from first and it positions that drive for boot. Since both drives have O.S. installed, either one can boot. The reason I am trying to install a secondary drive is because my original O.S. was corrupted and I cannot restore it. It works fine but cannot access the web. I spent several hundred dollars with two different specialists to try to fix it. They couldn't do anything. So I am starting over with a new drive, with the intention of transferring the data over, once I get acccess to both.
 
Have you tried the drives both as masters one on each ide channel (presumably CD/DVD device(s) on secondary IDE - you could disconnect them while trying this)?
 
Is the new master a WD? Using only 1 jumper, make sure this drive is set to master. The jumper should be vertical (I can't remember which pins). When WD's come from the factory, they are jumpered as 'single' - aka no other drive present. The single setting will not work correctly with a slave present.
 
i think smah is pointing you in the correct direction

on newer drives from wd....cable select is the default configuration pins 1+2

a single drive would be pins 4+6

a dual drive setup on one ide channel would use pins 5+6 for master

pins 3+4 make it a slave

hope this helps!


peace
 
ps.....make sure you use the 80 wire cable suplied...a 40 wire cable wont work on an ata100 drive. also make sure the slave is in the middle of the cable and the master is at the end...and that all connections are secure
 
Won't a 40-pin cable work at ATA33 for an ATA100 drive ? I always thought that the 40-pin cable would always work, but obviously you'd be losing efficiency if you had an ATA100 drive without an 80-pin cable.
 
wd tech tells me that the drive can detect which cable is attached(pin34)and will not function period with the wrong cable. I have proven it on my own system.

the 40 wire cable and 80 wire cable are essentially the same exept for pins 28 and 34 (34 supports cable select in systems which support it)but on the 80 wire cable, every other wire is grounded to prevent crosstalk.
 
Take the jumper of the master,set 2nd to slave,boot,and it should show up.I only use WD hdd's.I experienced this problem,and found this to be the best way to solve the problem.
 
I have tried setting the drives to masters and putting them on separate channels. No good. I am able to boot to either one and each one will come up but not see the other drive.
I also took the jumper off the master and set the 2nd to slave. It will boot but still not function with both drives visible. About the only thing I haven't done is switch my ribbon cables. They are functioning obviously because each one can work in a boot situation, it just won't show the other drive. What now? Please help!
 
A recent thread somewhere presented cable select as a possibility and it fixed that particular problem.
Have you tried cable select in any of the configurations?

Or what about putting each back on separate ide channels with each one jumpered with the horizontal jumper single drive setting? (or maybe no jumper at all).
 
you could always boot up with a boot disk - should be able to copy files over in dos :)
 
There was a post in a cd thread recently about last drive letter. Is it possible your last drive letter is capped really low so the system cant fit that second drive in?
 
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