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98 Very slow Boot up - frustrating

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simion

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Sep 14, 2002
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I have a P433 - with 512Mb memory. I have a realtek network card on board and a DSL modem. I have gone through all the possible PPOe and TCP/IP network settings for the card so its not this that causes the slow boot. Windows starts up - MS clouds comes up - then back to DOS screen and then just sits there for about a minute. After minute the machine boots fine. There are no other cards on board - except for a SCSI controller with my CD burner attached. No errors in the System Devices in control panel - in fact no errors anywhere. !!??! help!
 
Has your computer always been like this? Antivirus software will do the same thing it will allow windows to load to a point then start scanning. Depending on your Bios and other software you can speed up the start of your computer by more then 1/2 the time. Watch the screen and when you see the the black and white screen with alot of info on it, hit the pause button and write down the version of your bios. This will help latter, then hit any key and let your computer bootup. Then launch your antivirus software, try the start, programs and symantic or mccafee. And click on help, write down the version of it. Go to each web site and look up slow start up or fast boot. Hey email me at zlito@aol.com and I will send a great trouble shooting book of flow charts and other help.
 
Have you tried opening the ASD.EXE program from Start > Run?

This will list any failed device driver installations. You can clear the list by checking the boxes and rebooting.

A boot delay can sometimes be the result of a malfunctioning device or a bad connection somewhere. Try re-seating all your cards in their slots.

If this doesn't cure it, you can try removing all your devices (sound, SCSI adapter, CD, network - keep the video card) from device manager, shut down, physically remove the cards, then reboot. Do you get a "normal" boot now? If so, add back each card, one at a time, and keep rebooting/installing the cards till you get a slowdown.
 
How many programs are loading at startup through msconfig's startup tab and what are they? (start--run--msconfig) Unchecking the one's you don't need will speed up the startup time a bit.
 
If your IP is dynamic, it'll be slow as the machine gets the IP from your ISP.
If it's static, set it to be static in Networking to speed it up. Cheers,
Jim
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Some Excellent suggestions from you all and thanks - Boy this is a great site.

Well to answer a few of the above - there is no anti virus software (windows or Bios), there are no errors in any hardware loads in ASD (control panel System Device manager has no little yellow warnings). I could isolate a bad piece of hardware by systematically removing things - but that seems a little drastic. Msconfig is set to the barebones minimum for startup so its not that - and config.sys and autoexec.bat is empty

The suggestion of a dynamic assigned IP is rather intriguing as the network activity light on the DSL modem does flash a few times during the boot 'coma'. But of course I am not given a static IP address by the high speed provider (Bell Sympatico in my case!) - but I had exactly the same set up on a previous computer at home and it never had this problem - (that was a P1Ghz with 512 memory as well). So......
I looked at the PPoE settings in CTRL Panel- network settings and it is 'getting wins from DHCP' - I changed that to none - and - it made no difference at all grrrr.!
 
Maybe this doesn't apply but I was having a boot problem with a PC once and it was due to a comical error:

My desktop had a shortcut to a folder on a networked PC. If that networked PC was not on, my boot process took longer.

Just an idea....
 
BOOT LOG ANALYZER. If your computer is booting slowly, this little
freeware utility at ,
may identify the source of the delay. The Boot Log Analyzer reports
the delay with loading each DLL (Dynamic Link Library) and identifies
problems some of the DLL may be having with properly loading. The BLA
won't fix your problems, but you might be better informed so you can
either ditch the offending software or go looking for a fix.

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My Asus motherboard pauses just like that when I put a nic on it. It doesn't matter whether I am using a static or dynamic ip address for either of the nics in the computer. My gigabyte motherboard pauses for just a very short time at that stage of booting. Are you using an Asus motherboard?
 
Ok well I dont think that it is an Asus motherboard - but the problem is definitely TCPIP related. I ran a boot and created bootlog.txt and the guilty party is the MSTCP loading. It takes 61 seconds average to load this driver (thanks for suggestion jmatt - a great tool). The Microsoft TCPIP driver takes forever to load ..........
 
It's possible the driver is corrupt but I still think there may be a hardware issue to consider. Try to reseat the NIC, or, put it in a different PCI slot.
 
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