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oh, and I'm sorry. Designer: One who creates art/type/layout,.... Creates all kinds of illustrator blends, freehand lens effects, spot to process gradients,... Printer: One who deals with and creates art/type/layout,... Does workarounds to get all kinds of illustrator blends, freehand lens...

Thank you Genimuse for you contribution. And yes Jimoblak, pdf's do make our work a lot easier. The only problems I've encountered are problems with the way they are created (ie: not all fonts embedding, no bleeds, downsampling, wrong color spaces). They also stop dead any concept of color...

wow jimo... It always falls on the printer in your mind huh? wow....

Were either of the macs running OS X? I' ve had a problem copying from OS X to Win2K, back to OS 9.2.2 and loosing file types.

In OS X, you have to mount the drives, then go to system prefs>login items. Then you can drag and drop the mounted server into the login items window. Make sure the check box is clicked, and it will mount on restart.

Well jim, I said a press ready pdf "in theory should fly fine". But I, and other prepress techs have found that adobe's implimentation of transparacies, and new inclusion of native file formats has some issues (bugs) that aren't totally worked out. The only point I'm trying to get...

No, in theory, a true press ready pdf should fly fine. As long as the printer he uses is at postscript level 3. And johnderek, if you're using indesign, or any of the more current apps, you do need a printer that is operating at that level of postscript. Or you, and they will be doing...

jimo... While I realize the incredible value of designers, and even prepress techs having access to desktop proofers, surely you, as a former printshop worker, should realize that when you are going to film or direct to plate, you have to export from the native application that will pass through...

If your printer is in an eps workflow, they need to embed all images, and set the transparancy flattener to maximum. This should solve most white box issues, as long as they are using a postscript level 3 rip. As far as the pdf, it must be created with acrobat (distiller) 5, version 4 doesn't...

I'm sorry Jim, Tim... But Indesign isn't all your saying it's cracked up to be! As a desktop tech in a full fledged, up to date prepress environment I've seen more than my share of problems with indesign. Whether it be linked psd's, ai's, font embedding, etc. Yes, you can get some native file...