xhtml <body onload> attribute 7

1DMF · Dec 14, 2005

is this right? XHTML doesn't allow "onload" for the body tag.

how do you fire up javascript when the page has loaded without it?

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BillyRayPreachersSon · Dec 14, 2005

You attach the onload event in the JS itself.

Code:

onload = function() {
   // code here
}

Hope this helps,
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1DMF · Dec 14, 2005

ah thanks, although, that wasn't why it was complaining, i had a typo on the end of the line which for some reason was throwing a misleading error

Code:

<body onload="&lt;tmpl_var ID='onload'&gt;"'>

I had an erroneous single quote on the end, d'oh

Now I finally have

This Page Is Valid XHTML 1.1!

woohoo, one other question though, is onContextMenu I.E. specific?

thanks
1DMF

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ca8msm · Dec 14, 2005

No, it isn't. Firefox supports it - not sure what else does though.

The easiest thing to do though (if you are unsure) is to try it.

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BabyJeffy · Dec 14, 2005

is onContextMenu I.E. specific?

As ca8msm says, it works in Firefox. More specifically it has been in Mozilla and Netscape since 2001! Safari supports it.

So whilst it's not a standard, it was introduced as an IE proprietary event that was adopted (like innerHTML) by other browser vendors.

IE 5.2 for the Mac doesn't support it... and it looks like Opera has left it out as well.

I found a lot of information here:

http://www.quirksmode.org/js/events_compinfo.html

Cheers,
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1DMF · Dec 14, 2005

thanks, w3c won't validate it as an attribute, although the only use i've used it for is to block the menu on right click, which someone called me "Jewish" for doing so.

I'm sure it will be handy on web applications, so you can use it to create your own "Right Click Menu/Options".

I've now taken it out of my pages, for some reason way back when, I thought somehow I was protecting my source code and images, but anyone with half a brain can get to most source code on the web, and I.E. pops up a little menu with a save icon for images now, so it's a pointless task trying to block it.

However I can see future advantages in getting control over what happens when the right mouse click is pressed on a web page.

regards,
1DMF

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BabyJeffy · Dec 14, 2005

I reckon you have it spot on there... it's ideal for intranet environments where you have a fixed browser on the desktop.

...anyone with half a brain can get to most source code on the web, and I.E. pops up a little menu with a save icon for images now, so it's a pointless task trying to block it...

It's great you have "come around" to this way of thinking... when you suddenly realise that it's not the code that is worth protecting - but the "craft behind the code".

Personally I had this "revelation" after trying to explain to a colleague how I went about building a particular page... they had all the elements (ripped off my site) but didn't have a clue how to put them together in a different way.

I see this happen a lot here... people pick up some scripts and spend ages trying to "glue them" into their pages without understanding how they work.

Anyway, good on you for ditching the code [smile]

Cheers,
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1DMF · Dec 14, 2005

wow - a compliment from the "Code Couch" crew, that's cool!

Like I have said in a previous post, the journey i have ahead of me I know is a long one, but thanks to you guys, I've found the road, so hopefully I'll eventually get to the end!

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tsdragon · Dec 14, 2005

FYI: there is another way to get javascript code to execute after the page has loaded: put the code between script tags using the "defer" attribute:

Code:

<script type="text/javascript" [b][red]defer[/red][/b]>
alert("This will run after the page is loaded.");
</script>

I don't remember whether it runs before or after the onload event handler, but that is easy to test.

Tracy Dryden

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1DMF · Dec 14, 2005

thanks for the tip

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cLFlaVA · Dec 14, 2005

[tt]defer[/tt] is, at BEST, IE only. does not have an affect in Firefox.

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1DMF · Dec 14, 2005

no probs, i'll just tell everyone they have to use I.E.

JOKE!

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ChrisHunt · Dec 15, 2005

A simple way to get a script to run (almost) after the page has loaded is to put the <script> element right at the end of the document (just before the </body> tag).

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1DMF · Dec 15, 2005

wouldn't that be concidered as a non-wellformed document?

I was under the impression the corrct way is to have a link to an external JS file in the head for all scripts.

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ChrisHunt · Dec 15, 2005

Nope, it's perfectly well formed, and valid too. <script>s can be in the <body> as well as in the <head>.

-- Chris Hunt
Webmaster & Tragedian
Extra Connections Ltd

1DMF · Dec 15, 2005

great, that solves one problem i have with a script, i didn't write it and it wants placing just before the body tag.

cheers
1DMF

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Foamcow · Dec 15, 2005

I think it still needs to be within <body> or <head>.
You can't put it between head and body sections.
Then again, that might be worth looking up.

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1DMF · Dec 15, 2005

opps typo (END body </body>) tag

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cLFlaVA · Dec 15, 2005

you need to start shortening your discussions before i go mad.

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chrissie1 · Dec 15, 2005

before i go mad.

To late.

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