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VPN Hardware vs RAS/IAS & SSL

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1DMF

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Hi,

We currently have our remote access users set up so they must go to certificate services and download a user SSL certificate. (which I control access to via IIS)

I have then set up RRAS/IAS to only allow SSL certificated users to connect to the work server via VPN.

However, our support company says this is an obscure and non-standard way of setting up VPN.

Yet when they messed with it they tried to set it up so it allowed username / password to connect and not SSL. (doesn't this send credentials in plain text?)

Surely their way is much more unsecure plus the data transfer wouldn't be encrypted.

They now have suggested we should get a VPN box for VPN users.

Why are they suggesting this, what's wrong with using the server's RRAS & ISA with SSL encryption / security.

What does a VPN box do, how is it better or 'the normal way' of doing things.

Why on earth do they think the way I have it configured is obscure and non-standard?

I'm a little confused over this, so your advice is appreciated.

Thanks,
1DMF.

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What type of VPN? If it's IPSEC, then ALL communication is encrypted.

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tim@tim-laptop ~ $ sudo apt-get install windows
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package windows...Thank Goodness!
 
What type of VPN? If it's IPSEC, then ALL communication is encrypted.
Sorry I don't understand the question.

1. Do you mean what sort of box are we thinking of getting

or

2. What sort of VPN we are currently using?

1. I don't know, that's why I am asking the question, what's the difference, what does a box do that my current set up doesn't and what's so odd about our current set up?

2. It's SSL encryption, as I mentioned, you go to windows network connections, add a new connection, choose VPN and set it up to use the SSL certificate as the 'smart card or certificate' option.

As I understood it, if you just used username and password, it's plain text, can anyone confirm this please?



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"If a shortcut was meant to be easy, it wouldn't be a shortcut, it would be the way!"

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If it is a true SSL VPN, then a username and password are not cleartext---encrypted with 128 bit SSL.

I am unfamiliar with W1nd0z3 VPNs, however.

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tim@tim-laptop ~ $ sudo apt-get install windows
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package windows...Thank Goodness!
 
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