Voice and Data drops

[bdepew]

I am installing some new jacks for voice and data, is it best to do 2 pulls or can i get away with 1 pull and just make 2 jacks out of it?
I was going to run 2 cat5e runs for 2 jacks, 1 voice and 1 data, prob safest way to go about it.

any ideas?

thanks,



Brian Depew
B4designs

 

[jeffmoss26]

Pull one cable for voice and one for data. Better yet pull an extra data. Don't try to skimp and make them both work off one cable.

jeff moss

 

[resorttech12]

agree. if you split the cable, you will end up hating yourself later.

**Always prepare for the unkown!

Enjoy the weekend

 

[wires]

With framfroodle grounding you should be able to get at least 50 voice and 25 data connections on one cat5e cable. With the current price of copper there is no need to waste wire.

Seriously - jeffmoss26 has the right idea. Cable is cheaper than labor. Pulling 1 cable per service is the minimum and spares usually come in handy.

 

[skip555]

With framfroodle grounding you should be able to get at least 50 voice and 25 data connections on one cat5e cable. With the current price of copper there is no need to waste wire.

only if you crimp ends on the cable



i would pull one cat 3 , 4 pair and one cat 5 and a pull string for future

(it would only be one "pull" as I would be pulling from multiple box's of cable )

 

[Dexman]

Jeff & Skip pretty much nailed this one.

If it ain't broke, I haven't fixed it yet.

 

[robertjo24]

We’ve adopted two standards, one in our main/corporate office and one for field offices.
In the corporate office we run an all IP phone system, so each drop has two data one voice. The one voice is wired in case ma digital or analog line is required. We’ve actually used this line to run video to a desktop monitor for security.
The field office standard is two data, two voice. Most of our field offices still have digital/analog phones.

This allows us to have “spare” connectivity at each drop. Our networking standard states all nodes will have their own port on the switch. Having these extra drops helps keep the guys in the field offices from installing rouge switches, or worse, rouge wireless access points.

At first glance, this seems like overkill. But what was discussed in the above posts is correct, the extra copper is cheaper than labor.

 

[oldtimerbob]

I would suggest doing one pull per station,with two cables of Cat5e.

You can use either for your voice, but you did not say if your voice connections require any special connections,such as one pair,two pair,etc,or if this will be a VIOP.

I would put them all on a data patch panel and number them 1,2,3,etc and at both ends, and then use which ever one I desired for the voice by using patch cords of different colors (ie: blue for data, white for voice).
In areas where there may be an additional device,such as for a fax or printer, I would run a third cable for that location.

You can seperate the cabling at the rack for either a data panel or a voice panel or even to seperate racks, that is your call.

For connections of the analog lines (like for fax) I would run a tie cable from the voice backboard to a seperate patch panel on the rack and color code those connections with another patch cord ( ie: yellow for analog lines).

Good Luck



Has been in the cabling business for about twenty years and is now the Sr PM for a cabling company located in the Los Angeles area.

http://www.globusinc.net

Also a General Class Amatuer Radio Operator.

 

[LeeMcCauslin]

only if you crimp ends on the cable

Crimping is for sissies! Electrical tape and wire nuts is all you really need. ;-)

 

[LkEErie]

Lee,

You have fallen behind the times. There are them new-fangled beanies. See the alarm guys if you don't know what I'm talkin' about. A handful of those and you don't have to use the electrical tape except to hold up the cables.

LkEErie

 

[pbxn]

LkEErie, you call them beanies? We call them new fangled things monkey rubbers.

 

[LeeMcCauslin]

Monkey rubbers and beanies? I don't know if can sneak that through the budget...Sounds fancy. We don't do fancy. They'll accuse me of trying to be high-falutin'.