Very Slow Export from Premiere Timeline to AVI

[RogerBerry]

Just bought a DVD burner and want to burn some treasured footage. I started with a six minute sequence and found it took over three hours to export as an AVI.

As an experiment, I put together a similar sequence in Windows Movie Maker and found this took only around four minutes to export. Why the difference? Am I doing something wrong or is Premiere just really slow at handling this?

There are no transitions in the sequence I'm talking about and no special effects. I'm doin >file>export timeline>movie then choosing Cinepak Codec by Radius and D1/DV PAL in the settings.

I'm running Version 6 on a 2.4GHz P4 with 512Mb ram and 7,200rpm hard drives.

If this is just the way things are with Premiere, how does anyone aver produce a feature film?

 

[WizyWyg]

1. What are your project settings for your Adobe Premier project

2. Windows Movie Maker uses the windows native wmv/asp format, which is a highly compressed "video" format so that they can be used for web production and or video streaming.

3. Feature film in premiere? Uh, that's not what I would use. I;d be on a Media 100 or an Avid system if I plan on doing a feature film. ^_^

4. My rendering time on average for a 20 minute movie is about 3-4 hours . This is on a 1.6 Ghz P4 with 512gb of DDR Ram. I archive a lot of local based tv productions that I know will never see the light of day on a DVD or VHS commercially.

If you're converting from one "compression" format to another ( id DV AVI to a Cinepak) its best to run a "preview" so that the Premier can cache the settings. It'll make rendering time faster.

 

[EdwardMartinIII]

I used Premiere for my most recent feature, which was a 100-minute animated movie. The final timeline is a collection of Quicktimes. When I am working all in the realm of Quicktime, everything goes lickety-split. When I try converting to AVI, it takes f-o-r-e-v-e-r. So, I stick with Quicktime.

Exporting to mpeg elementary streams, even at highest quality setting only takes about five hours.

Hope that helps!

Cheers,


Edward

"Cut a hole in the door. Hang a flap. Criminy, why didn't I think of this earlier?!" -- inventor of the cat door

 

[RogerBerry]

Hi,

Many thanks to both of you for replying.

First off, perhaps I should explain that when I talked about doing a feature film that was just a "for instance". I'm unlikely to producing anything over around 20 minutes in the near future but would just like to know why things take so long to save as AVIs.

I'm pretty much a beginner (just in case you couldn't tell) at this kind of thing but I'm setting out to create the best possible quality output, just to test the limitations of my equipment. If I want to stream on the internet, for example, I imagine I can always resample later on.

At the time of my original query, I was using a #400 Samsung Mini DV cam but have just bough a Canon XL1S [that caused some serious domestic fireworks, I can tell you] so I'm now hoping for slightly better results.

My first follow up question is for Edward. You mentioned exporting to Quick Time format. I can do this but thought it was only suitable for video on the web. Will this format convert to hi-quality mpegs which I can burn to DVD and knock the socks off family, friends and potential clients?

Now on to your points, Wysiwyg: thanks for clarifying those issues. You asked about my Premiere Project settings; here's a sumary:
Under general, I've got editing mode, DV Playback; Timebase, 25; Time Display, 25FPS Timecode (remember we have PAL in the UK). Under Video, I'm set at Compressor, Microsoft DV (PAL); Pixel Aspect Ratio, D1/DV PAL (1.067). Audio is on 48K and 1 second interleave. I'm capturing from the cam at 720*576 and 25FPS with colour depth set to millions and saving the finished project as an AVI using the same frame rate, frame size and pixel aspect ratios as above.
I only noticed after my last posting that I have a choice of codecs here. They are: Cinepak Codec by radius, Indeo Video 5.10, Intel Indeo Video R32, Intel Indeo Video 4.5, Intel IYUV Codec, Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Codec V1 and V2, Microsoft RLE, Microsoft Video1 and None. Some but not all of these codecs also have configuration options.
I know I'm asking a big favour but if you have time to respond and point me in the right direction I'd be really grateful.

Many Thanks once again,
Roger

 

[EdwardMartinIII]

Quicktime Sorenson 3 codec at 100% is darn good quality.

Try this:

Make a copy of your PPJ file (so you can dink around with it without affecting your REAL work). Convert the Project settings to Quicktime Sorenson 3. Use the built-in CinemaCraft mpeg encoder to export to elementary streams. Use one of the presets, instead of trying to guess on your own. How long is your footage and how long does it take to export to the two streams?

Cheers,

Edward

Edward

"Cut a hole in the door. Hang a flap. Criminy, why didn't I think of this earlier?!" -- inventor of the cat door