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terion33333333

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I am new in InDesign. I need create PDF presentation with hi-quality images embedded, menu, etc. I need get very clear and sharp text in my layout(vector quality). When I paste text into layout(from ms word or other source) and format it: does InDesign produce text in vector format or raster?

What is more appropriate tool, Adobe Illustrator or InDesign?
 
...text imported or typed in indesign will be a font, therefore crisp and clear...

...indesign will rasterize text if it interacts with transparency in your layout when you export to pdf 1.3 (Acrobat 4) and flatten transparency. This will occur if you have, for example, a drop shadow effect or similar (might be a layered PSD with transparent background) above vector or text elements. It is good practice to keep your text and vector elements above everything on a seperate layer...

...when you export to pdf 1.4 or higher, transparency is not flattened as these pdf formats support transparency...

...Indesign is more appropriate as it is a multipage layout application that exports to multipage pdf files, much easier to manage for what you need...

...creating interactive pdf's is possible too...

InDesign provides a variety of interactive features that make it easy to create multimedia eBooks, forms, and other PDF documents. These interactive features can also enhance the multimedia experience in GoLive when you use the Package for GoLive feature.

Hyperlinks let you jump to another location in the exported PDF document, or in other documents exported from InDesign.

You can add bookmarks that appear in the Bookmarks tab in Acrobat, making navigation easier.

You can add movie and sound clips that can be played in the PDF document.

You can add buttons that perform an action such as jumping to a page, opening a file, or playing a movie.

When you export the InDesign document to Portable Document Format (PDF), you can determine whether the document is saved in PDF 1.3 (Acrobat 4), PDF 1.4 (Acrobat 5), PDF 1.5 (Acrobat 6), or PDF 1.6 (Acrobat 7).

The PDF version determines which interactive options are available. Before you export, note the following limitations:

If you export to PDF 1.3/1.4
Non-RGB movie or sound posters aren’t visible in the exported PDF document.

SWF and MPEG movies aren’t playable in the exported PDF document.

Clipping paths applied to movie or sound posters don’t appear in the exported PDF document. Posters are resized to match the movie page item.

Movies cannot be embedded.

Sounds cannot be linked.

If you export to PDF 1.5 or 1.6
QuickTime is specified as the preferred player when exporting to PDF. To change the preferred player, you must edit the rendition in Acrobat 6 or Acrobat 7.

If you export to any PDF version
Non-rectangular media frames don’t appear in the exported PDF document.

Hyperlinks applied to movies, sounds, or buttons are not active in the exported PDF document.

Rotated or sheared movies and posters don’t appear in the exported PDF document.

Any masking applied to movie frames or posters is not supported.

Andrew
 
thank you for info. I need create headers use big outlined fonts and want make it maximally sharp and clear. Will indesign rasterize text?

Not fully clear what is the reason save document in old versions PDF 1.3 - PDF 1.6 The latest is Acrobat 8.0 and I will use only this latest version. To addHyperlinks let you jump to another location in the exported PDF document, or in other documents exported from InDesign.

To add bookmarks, hyperlinks, buttons, embedd sound - this done in indesign or in Acrobat?
 
The simple answers:

Indisgn will not rasterize the text (you should never rasterize text unless you cna't avoid it). The text will stay as text in the pdf and can, if necessary, be edited in Acrobat pro.

You can create interactive elements like links in indesign but it's usually easier to use Acrobat pro.

The reason Apepp mention the various version of pdf is that you can never know what version or Acrobat (or more likely) Reader that the viewer will have on their computer. If you put in lelment that would only work with Acrobat 8, they might not work with Acrobat, or Reader, 5 or 6.

Using OSX 10.3.9 on a G4
 
...pdf 1.3 (Acrobat 4) doesn't support transparency therefore it needs to be flattened during export, if vector and text elements are below these effects when exported to these formats they will get rasterized, keeping vector and text elements above will prevent this...

...pdf 1.4 (Acrobat 5) to 1.6 (Acrobat 7) supports transparency and therefore your text and vector elements should be fine...

...Indesign CS2 only exports up to pdf 1.6 (Acrobat 7), unless you have CS3 the latest version you'll get is pdf 1.6 (Acrobat 7)...

...hyperlinks, bookmarks, sound, movies and buttons are applied or created in indesign...

...you can create hyperlinks so that when you export to Adobe PDF, a viewer can click a link to jump to other locations in the same PDF document, to other PDF documents, or to websites...

...Choose Window > Interactive > Hyperlinks to display the Hyperlinks palette...

...bookmarks you create in the InDesign document appear in the Bookmarks tab on the left side of the Acrobat or Adobe Reader window. Each bookmark can jump to a page, text, or graphic in your document...

...Choose Window > Interactive > Bookmarks, to display the Bookmarks palette...

...you can add movies and sound clips to a document, or you can link to streaming video files on the Internet. Although media clips cannot be played directly in the InDesign layout, they can be played when you export the document to Adobe PDF, when you export the document to XML and repurpose the tags, or when you package for GoLive.
QuickTime 6.0 or later is required to work with movies in InDesign. You can add QuickTime, AVI, MPEG, and SWF movies, and you can add WAV, AIF, and AU sound clips...

...for other users to view media in a PDF document, they must have Acrobat 6.x or later to play MPEG and SWF movies, or Acrobat 5.0 or later to play QuickTime and AVI movies...

...when you create a button using the Button tool, you can drag the button area, or you can click to specify the height and width in a dialog box...

...use the Selection tool to select the image, shape, or text frame that you want to convert to a button. You cannot convert a movie, sound, or poster to a button. Choose Object > Interactive > Convert to Button...

Andrew
 
Once I tried create document layout in ms Word then converted it into PDF, but I have not been satisfied with result: text headers where not sharp, pictures low quality, since Word reduce image quality. Word can no create quality layout.
 
I create an InDesign package monthly for a 5 signature, (80 page) magazine. I use PS, AI, PitStop, etc. then put the package on an ftp site for the printer and send a hard copy pdf and a CD (pdf and package) and ship it overnight. In return I get a BlueLine and a Matchprint to proof.

I like it, it gives me a final graphics edit and a feeling of control over the finished product.

We are using a new printer now and they want me to create the magazine as usual - but only send them a hidef pdf. They said they don't want my files, don't want my fonts... nothing.

I looked at their work, and looked at it more closely with a loop and I can see a real loss of quality that my employer seems to miss - or maybe it's just the bottom line they're looking for.

Can you help me out? How can I convince them the loss of quality is visible and important? It seems like a glorified copy to me.
 
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