URGENT, max distance for analog and digital subscribers 1

[bmx 1976]

in the siemens hipath 4000 system, what is the maximum distance to carry an analog subscriber and a digital subscriber

 

[donb01]

Analog has been typically 2000 - 3000 feet, but can vary depening on the cable guage and nearby interference, number of cross connect points, etc.

Digital (optisets, Openstage T's, etc) I would guess is around 2000 feet with the same conditions applying.

IP phones, such as Openstage HFA, optiPoints, etc, the "official" maximum length of a data run for CAT5 is 305 feet (drop length and patch cords at both ends), but I have squeaked them out to around 375. Phones are way more anal than computers and they start getting fussy with longer cable lengths. I have one that is 400 feet and I cannot make a phone work on that connection, but the PC works acceptably well.

Others' mileage may vary )

Don Bruechert, Voice Comm Analyst II
CareTech Solutions @ Holy Family Memorial
Manitowoc, WI, USA

 

[LoPath]

Keep in mind, for IP phones, you can cheat and use an inexpensive network switch as a repeater to extend your distance.

LoPath
Maintain HiPath 4000 V5 & V6, OpenScape Xpert V4, OpenScape Xpressions, OpenScape Contact Center, OpenScape Voice

 

[sbcsu]

Also double up the copper pairs running to Analog phones for extra distance.

 

[Moriendi]

It's a long way.

IP phone still gets the furthest, you can have it on the other side of the world.

 

[donb01]

Hey LoPath, are you aware of an "inexpensive network switch" that does gigabit and POE?? I want something for home and I've not found both gigabit and POE anywhere near cheap (

I have a regular network switch in my office, but I can't plug a phone into it - the phone has to go into the network drop to get the POE and then I have the switch on the backside of the phone

Don Bruechert, Voice Comm Analyst II
CareTech Solutions @ Holy Family Memorial
Manitowoc, WI, USA

 

[Moriendi]

What about Amazon "ZYXEL 5-Port Gigabit Web Managed PoE+ Switch with 60 Watt". Looks cheap to me. Netgear do something similar with 8 ports (the 5 port Netgear is PoE passthrough - not the same. 8 port runs from AC adaptor and generates the PoE).

 

[donb01]

I like ZyXel - I have a WiFi adapter of theirs that I can plug in a 4G dongle or ethernet and turn it into WiFi - works great for camping I'll have to check that one out - thanks!


Don Bruechert, Voice Comm Analyst II
CareTech Solutions @ Holy Family Memorial
Manitowoc, WI, USA

 

[LoPath]

Yeah.....cheap and POE don't necessarily go together. But what about a POE injector? A cheap switch with a POE injector, while maybe a cluster, may be economical for what you're trying to do.

Also, the Siemens/Unify power supplies work pretty good on desk phones without POE. They're also handy for a couple of reasons:
1. If you want to see how a phone is programmed without the "oops" of plugging it into the network.
2. Using the DERT tool and a laptop to unbrick a phone.

LoPath
Maintain HiPath 4000 V5 & V6, OpenScape Xpert V4, OpenScape Xpressions, OpenScape Contact Center, OpenScape Voice

 

[donb01]

I use a POE Injector with my DERT tool - never thought of the Siemens power supply, but with the injector it is less cables.

I actually have a Siemens power supply in my office for exactly the reason you specify - to see what extension is on a phone I just found laying around, or to do a facory wipe before I put the phone on the network so it is clean before the DLS hits it. DLS can be annoying if you are trying to re-use a phone and you don't remove the previous extension because you will do the advanced prep and then plug in the phone and it renumbers the profile in DLS instead of renumbering the phone...

I also found a netgear gig POE switch that looks interesting and only runs around $139. I found it because my new scanner identified it as a rogue device on the network and I found out that's how the security company hooked up their cameras to the network...

Don Bruechert, Voice Comm Analyst II
CareTech Solutions @ Holy Family Memorial
Manitowoc, WI, USA