I am trying to gather the modelspace window coordinates for the paperspace viewport. I am getting a errant number for the result of a lower left and upper right. It just so happens that the coords are 6801 units to the +X and 1282 units to the -Y. I queried the viewport and get a value for the assoc list on 17 of -6801.0 1282.0 -26.0 , mmmm. I see that this is a target for a camera view. Should or is this getting used in the calculation of my coordinates? I translate the coords in other drawings and do not get the "errant" lower left and upper right. If it is, how do I reset this? I tried setting the TARGET variable to 0.0 0.0 0.0 but to no avail. Any clues? Thanks