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To upgrade or not to upgrade?

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dabble

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Jun 15, 2005
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When I do an ISS this is what I get:

>LD 22
PT2000

REQ ISS

VERSION 3021
RELEASE 4
ISSUE 50 W +
IDLE_SET_DISPLAY

So this is telling me my switch is a Succession 3.0 at Release 4.5?

We have the CP4 processor - has anyone actually changed their processor to the CPPIV?

Does anyone know the EOL date for the CP4?

I am in a really big quandry right now in trying to decide what to do going forward. We have multiple sites with various Nortel equipment - 11C's, 9150's, mini carrier remotes, SRG / BCM50's, Branch offices.

My vendor has quoted me $82K (CDN$) to upgrade one of my 11C's to a CS1000E at Rls 5.

They also quoted me $62K (CDN$) to change my current CP4 process to the CPPIV processor and Rls 5.

We had all our VOIP budget money removed from the current capital requests so I only have a bit of what I didn't spend last year which is around $60K (CDN$).

For some reason, I have developed a mental block on the requirements for changing all our old equipment to a VOIP platform. I have been at presentations about it, but I am having a really hard time understanding it.

I know I've run on a bit, but can anyone offer any advice perhaps?

Thanks to all.
 
Retirement Bulletin
Bulletin Number: MD-2004-0111-Global-Rev3
Date: 15 February 2005
Note this bulletin is replacing previously released versions of MD 2004-0111-Global.
Manufacture Discontinue Notice for Motorola 68060(E) Call Processors & Related Codes; NT5D03FB, NT5D03PB, NT5D61AB, NT5D61BB, NT5D2104, NT5D21AA, NT5D21DA, NT5D10xx
Last Time Order Date:
April 2, 2005 (extended from December 1)
Last Time Ship Date:
April 30, 2005 (extended from December 31)
Manufacture Discontinue (MD) Date:
April 2, 2005 (extended from December 1)
End of Life (EOL) Date:
October 1, 2007.
Last Supported Software Release:
X21 Release 4.0
Market Regions Affected:
Global
Introduction
This Bulletin is being re-issued to extend the retirement date for the NT5D03FB, NT5D03PB, NT5D61AB, NT5D61BB, NT5D2104, NT5D21AA and NT5D21DA in all markets from December 1, 2004 to April 2, 2004. The NT5D03FB/PB (128M/160M) are Call Processors based on the Motorola 68060E processor module (CP4). These packs in conjunction with the NT5D61AB/BB (IODUC) and NT5D21AA/DA/04 (Shelf unit) form the CP4 Call Processor core. The core performs the call processing function for the Option 51C, Option 61C, Option 81C, Succession 1000M Half Group, Succession 1000M Single Group and the Succession 1000M Multi Group systems. Note that while every effort will be made to fill orders up to the retirement date, there are only a limited number of these packs available due to component availability. Once this inventory has been depleted no further packs will be made available.
In addition to the specific codes listed above, this notice will also consider previous vintages to be discontinued, as well as the NT5D10xx (CP3) series of processors (68060). These packs are no longer available for ordering, however they will have repair support until October 2007.
Nortel Page 1 of 3
All of these items have been replaced, by a Pentium based core, for all new system orders starting in October, 2003. The replacement codes are listed in the product overview table below.
Definition
Manufacture Discontinue (MD) – This notice serves as formal communication of Nortel Networks’ intent to MD the product(s) noted. No further orders will be accepted as of the Last Time Order Date shown above and no further shipments made after the product has been discontinued. The MD of these products should not be interpreted as the discontinuance of any Nortel Networks agreements to support the existing field population. Services to the existing product base will continue to be provided until the End of Life (EOL) date shown above.
End-Of-Life (EOL) – This notice serves as formal communication of Nortel Networks’ intent to end the life of the product(s) noted. No further support will be provided after the EOL date shown above. Emergency recovery and/or upgrades may be performed in accordance with customer specific service plans or upgrade agreements as negotiated prior to EOL.
Product Overview (See Table for Detail)
Product Description
Product Engineering Code (PEC)
Replacement Product Description (If applicable)
Replacement Product Engineering Code (PEC)
128M CP4 Call Processor
NT5D03FB
CPP Call Processor
NT4N64AA
160M CP4 Call Processor
NT5D03PB
CPP Call Processor
NT4N64AA
IODUC
NT5D61AB
MMDU
NT4N43DA
IODUC
NT5D61BB
MMDU
NT4N43DA
AC CoreNet Module
NT5D21AA
AC CoreNet Module
NT4N41AB
DC CoreNet Module
NT5D21DA
DC CoreNet Module
NT4N41DB
CoreNet Shelf
NT5D2104
CoreNet Shelf
NT4N40AA
Software Dependencies
Software support for the NT5D03FB and NT5D03PB Call Processors will cease with the introduction of Succession 5.0 Software release. Nortel Page 2 of 3
Alternative/Replacement Products/Solutions
The NT4N64AA is the replacement processor for the NT5D03FB and NT5D03PB. The NT4N64AA is a Pentium based processor and as such cannot directly replace the CP4 Call Processors. There are several kits available to convert a CP4 shelf to a CPP shelf. See product catalog for details.
Customer Actions
Repair services will be maintained for this pack until the end of life date. Any plan to upgrade your PBX Call Processors should seriously consider moving to the Pentium based platform. This will ensure the ability to move to current software releases.
For more information, please contact your Nortel Networks account representative. Content herein is not intended to supercede existing customer contractual commitments.
*Nortel, the Nortel logo and the Globemark are trademarks of Nortel.
Nortel is a recognized leader in delivering communications capabilities that enhance the human experience, ignite and power global commerce, and secure and protect the world’s most critical information. Serving both service provider and enterprise customers, Nortel delivers innovative technology solutions encompassing end-to-end broadband, Voice over IP, multimedia services and applications, and wireless broadband designed to help people solve the world’s greatest challenges. Nortel does business in more than 150 countries. For more information, visit Nortel on the Web at Nortel Page 3 of 3


Mato' Was'aka
 
Wow! Thank you for posting this. Much appreciated!
 
You are running CS 1000 Release 4.50.

I don't believe the Succession name is used any longer, replaced by CS 1000. Succession 3.0 was followed by 4.0 followed by 4.50.

Our vendor has said that the 9150 systems will continue to work with CS 1000 5.0, as long as you have a certain minimum software release; we are told CS 1000 5.5 will be GA in a month or so.
 
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