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TN464F testing in a definity cabinet

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dcourter

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I have a bunch of TN464F DS1 cards I am trying to test and I get a red light on the very top light of the card on all cards. Of the two lights above the status lights the top one just stays red as soon as i put it in. TN464GP and HP cards light up as good and the red light goes away. Any ideas of a config change that is needed for the F cards? THank you

ACA - IP Office Implement
 
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ICSU Status LEDs Test (#1227)

This test runs only on TN767E or later DS1 circuit packs and TN464F or later 
UDS1 circuit packs administered for 24-chel operation (1.544 Mbps).
The DS1 circuit pack has four status LEDs on the faceplate in addition to the 
three standard faceplate LEDs. These four status LEDs are associated with the 
120A Chel Service Unit (CSU) Module that can be connected to the DS1 board via 
the I/O connector panel on the back of the port carrier.
This test is a visual test. It lights the four status LEDs red for 5 seconds, 
green for 5 seconds, and yellow for 5 seconds. It then turns the LEDs off and re
turns control of the status LEDs to the circuit pack. The interpretation of the 
LEDs are described in the DS1/UDS1 (TN767/TN464) section in the LED Descriptions
for Avaya Aura Communication Manager Hardware Components (03-602804)

DS1/UDS1 (TN767/TN464) Circuit Pack LEDs
The DS1 (TN767) and UDS1 (TN464) circuit packs have four status LEDs on the 
faceplate in addition to the three standard faceplate LEDs. These four status 
LEDs are associated with the 120A Channel Service Unit (CSU) Module which can be
connected to the TN767 or TN464 circuit pack through the I/O connector panel on 
the back of the port carrier.
The TN464 circuit pack, combined with the 120A CSU module or the 401A T1 sync 
splitter, forms an Integrated CSU (I-CSU).

TN767/TN464 LEDs shows the DS1/UDS1 circuit pack LEDs.

Test 1 Failure: Solid red on only this LED indicates faulty DS1 board.
Test 2 Failure: Flashing red on status 1 LED indicates either faulty DS1 board, 
                faulty wiring between the DS1 board and the 120A, or a faulty 
                120A.
Test 3 Failure: Flashing red on status 2 LED indicates faulty 120A.
Steady green on status 3 LED indicates all tests passed.

  o <- Test 1 Failure
  o
  o

1 o <- Test 2 Failure
2 o <- Test 3 Failure
3 o <- Steady green on status 3 LED indicates all tests passed.
4 o

See Table 4: TN767/TN464 circuit pack LED interpretation for a guide to 
interpreting LEDs on the TN767 and TN464 circuit packs. In the table, DS1 refers
to both DS1 and UDS1.

Note: On the TN767/TN464 circuit pack faceplate, loopback indications share the 
      same LEDs as alarm indications. Loopback indications take priority over 
      alarm indications. Disregard alarm indications while loopback indications 
      are active. For example, if the status 2 LED is yellow, indicating a 
      loopback problem, disregard status 3 and status 4 alarm indications.

Table 4: TN767/TN464 circuit pack LED interpretation 1 of 3
LED             Color           Condition       Notes
Solid red       Red             Faulty DS1 
only on top                     circuit pack
circuit-pack
LED

STATUS 1        Green           Far end line    A near end DS1 circuit-pack 
                                loopback (LLB)  initiated line loopback is
                                active          active at the far end CSU.

                Yellow          Bit error rate  Error rate from the network
                                (BER) alarm     exceeds 10000
                                active

                Solid red       Loss of signal  If the DS1 circuit-pack fails to
                                (LOS) from DS1  send a signal to the CSU module,
                                circuit-pack    the top LED on the circuit-pack 
                                                will turn on red

                Steady          Failed equip.   Flash rate is .5 seconds on and
                flashing red    loopback (ELB)  off. This could indicate either
                                test            a bad DS1 circuit-pack where the
                                                problem is between the pack 
                                                loopback and the edge of the 
                                                pack, bad wiring or bad CSU 
                                                module.

                Off             Normal operation

Status 2        Green           CSU repeater lb
                                (RLB) or ELB
                                active

                Yellow          Near end CSU mod
                                LLB or PLB active

                Solid or        Span alarm 
                randomly        indicated by 
                flashing red    Status 3 or 4
                                is active

                Flashing red    Failed RLB      Flash rate is .5 seconds on and
                                test            off. Replace the 120A CSU

                Off             Normal
                                operation

Status 3        Green           Pulses present  If this LED is off, the Status 4
                                                LED will be red, indicating LFA 
                                                or LOS from the span. Either 
                                                Status 3 or 4 will always be on 
                                                if a 120A is present. Pulses 
                                                from the span might be 
                                                intermittent. In this case, the 
                                                LED might go off for several
                                                seconds, then turn back on.
                                                During the time it is off, other
                                                status LEDs will indicate alarms

                Yellow          Bipolar         This LED flashes each time a BPV
                                violation (BPV) is received from the network.
                                received from   B8ZS BPVs are not reported.
                                the span

                Red             CRC or frame    This LED flashes each time a CRC
                                bit error from  or bit error received from the 
                                the span        network.

                Off             No pulses       Triggers the Status 4 red LED

Status 4        Green           Alarm           Blue alarm, indicating equipment
                                indication      is down on the far end.
                                signal (AIS) is
                                received from
                                the span

                Yellow          Remote frame    This indicates that the far end
                                (RFA) received  cannot frame on the DS1 circuit-
                                from the span   pack's signal.

                Red             Loss of frame
                                alignment (LFA)
                                from the span

                Off             Normal operation
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Alarm           Description

Cyclic          May be produced by marginal or faulty line repeaters, network
Redundancy      circuit terminating equipment (NCTE), noise on the transmission
Check (CRC)     line, or by the circuitry that generates the framing pattern or
Erors           CRC at the transmit end. Bit errors in a DS1's signal are 
                detected via CRC errors when Extended Super Frame (ESF) is used.

Loss of Frame   Occurs when the near-end interface cannot frame up on the DS1's
(LOF) Alarm,    signal. A red LED lights on D4 channel banks when this alarm is
Red Alarm       on. A frequent cause is an incorrect setting of the framing 
                option at one end of the transmission facility or within the 
                network. This scenario will cause the LFA at both ends of the 
                transmission link. Other possible causes are an intermittent 
                cable, broken cable, and a rain-attenuated signal (with 
                microwave transmission facilities).

                This alarm is tripped several seconds after detecting a 
                continuous loss of framing, and clears several seconds after
                restoring the in-frame condition. The end of the span with the
                LFA sends an RFA to the other end to indicate it cannot frame
                on the other's signal.

Remote Frame    When received at the near end, shows that the far end is unable
Alarm (RFA)     to frame up on the signal sent by the near end. The far-end
Yellow Alarm    interface is in an LFA state. A yellow LED lights on D4 channel
                banks. Something is wrong with the part of the transmission
                facility that transmits the DS1's signal from the near end to
                the far end. May be caused by a broken conductor
                in the transmission cable wiring or within the network.

Loss of Signal  Shows that there is no bipolar signal present at the receiver
(LOS) Alarm     input. Occurs in parallel with the LFA alarm. Usually caused by
                cable-related problems such as a broken pair inside a cable, an 
                intermittent cable at a cross-connect point, or a cable 
                connector not completely seated.

AIS,            Shows that maintenance activities are in progress and that the 
Blue Alarm      out-of-service condition exists for that DS1 facility. The alarm
                is recognized as a continuous stream of 1s with no framing bit.
                This alarm condition may be treated differently depending on the
                particular network circuit terminating equipment (NCTE) used. 
                It may result in the NCTE automatically looping the signal back 
                to the switch. If the looped facility is providing 
                synchronization, then the synchronization subsystem must detect 
                that the facility is looped and deal with that condition.
                Otherwise, synchronization problems will occur.

A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"

bsh

36 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 26 years and counting
 
well according to that a red light on the top led means faulty DS1 board...i refuse to believe that i have 13 faulty tn464f boards. Having this many do the same thing would lead me to believe programming problems.

ACA - IP Office Implement
 
Also i am getting steady green on status led 3 which says all tests past. How can all tests pass if red on LED at the top means faulty board? Nothing thinking all tests can pass if my board is faulty. Any other suggestions?

ACA - IP Office Implement
 
Maybe you should use 2 boards, program both slots, add ds1 programing for each slot, add all ports on the first slot in a trunk-group, add all ports on the second slot in a different trunk-group. Wire a circuit between the two slots and see if you can get the span up and the trunks working.
Use a 120A csu on each slot.

Use a book to troubleshoot. This came right out of the cm5.2.1 Avaya documentation.

A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"

bsh

36 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 26 years and counting
 
already beat you to it....I do have two boards setup and programmed. this is how i got my GP cards to turn green in the same slot. Thanks for the info though.

ACA - IP Office Implement
 
so test the board, show output here
display alarm for the slot
display errors for the slot

A great teacher, does not provide answers, but methods to teach others "How and where to find the answers"

bsh

36 years Bell, AT&T, Lucent, Avaya
Tier 3 for 26 years and counting
 
Well alarms and errors have a lot in them but nothing for slot 15 where i have the 464...since my GPs work I guess im going to just rule that all 13 of these are trashed and put them on the scrap pile.

ACA - IP Office Implement
 
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