Thank you all for testing v4.0

[routermad]

I would like to thank you all for testing v4.0

I have been maintaining the IP Office from v1.0 (and the network alchemy range of products). The one thing I learn over the years is NEVER upgrade to the latest version. I have many painful experience of programming that once works well, now does not work. So one spend hours finding a work around....

I still have clients on v1.0 and they dont complain because i dont fix whats not broken, and I dont give them new features that dont work properly. You may disagree and i welcome all feedbacks. The choice is yours.

If AVAYA intends to replace the Index with the IPO, and wish to compete with other competitors. They need to make their product solid. I say roll on v10.

regards
engineer who has lost faith in the IPO and now supports anything but the IPO.

 

[tlpeter]

and ???
stop crying like a little girl, take a deep breath and smile


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Women and cats can do as they please and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea!

 

[ronromano]

Hey, I like 4.0 except for the things that suck about it.

 

[big70]

Just sell al IP-500 then jou must use 4.0 and you can,t use a solid version.

hahaha

Greets Peter

 

[Steeldog99]

I like 4.0 but If I can I will wait for the first maintenance release before I install it anywhere (other than on our test kit)

As for clients on 1.0, hard to complain if you can't dial out.

 

[jamie77]

I started with the IPO on 1.3. I have found it to be pretty good in general. I have only had to get 2 PB's from Avaya in 4 years. I do agree it's not as solid as the INDeX but you get what you pay for. The INDeX wasn't cheap kit!!

Although the decision to bin DT handsets hurt most of us in the uk. What was the point in the Media Gateway when they were going to get rid of DT support?????

Jamie Green

IPO ACA:Implement

http://www.alliedcom.co.uk

Fooball is not a matter of life and death-It is far more important!!!!

 

[intrigrant]

Well, routermad seems to be a bit dissapointed about the IP Office.
If it really was that bad it would never develop upto were it is now. A bad product cannot be sold! Customers and sales people are no fools you know.

 

[ronromano]

well said

 

[aarenot]

The IPO is typical of most technology systems when it comes to the book. If everything worked like the book said, or if everything was in the book, we would not have jobs, as secure jobs, or we would have lower pay. Wisdom says to realize this is true of evolving technology, and stop dwelling on the negatives of it, and dwell on the adventure of it.

The latest release scenario is typical of most technology systems, there is the cutting edge, and there is the bleeding edge. It is best to stay CLOSE to the cutting edge to leverage the technology, and off the bleeding edge unless the cost vs. benefit is there for the new features. Sometimes we are put in a situation where the benefit is deemed worth the cost of a little blood on the edge. That is nto our call as technician all the time, but it does prove our metal, or maybe stress hardens it.

The cutting edge in my opinion is the latest maint release of software, given careful review of the known caveats, and peer review of the release, as well as lab testing in house before deployment. It will still have instances of work hardening, and metal proving enough to keep you in a job, and from having your pay cut because a salesman, or a IT guy can install it. Nothing against traditional IT guys, but those from the traditional voice/TDM sector seem to in my experience have a more adaptive, customer responsive attitude, and aptitude. Just my opinion IT guys, not a statement of fact. We seem to be more used to customer service and response than the IT industry. Probably due to dial tone being next to a God given right in most customers mind in the traditional TDM industry.

The bleeding edge is the latest GA release of software, which is never a less than risky venture with any technology system. The issues that occur in most situations with GA releases are those that interact with windows, like user applications, VMPRO, IP phones. Voice no longer is an island, and therefore it has nieghbors it has to learn to play nice with. Each windows update is like a new nieghbor.

 

[jamie77]

I like your comments about traditional voice engineer. I've seen IT guys trying to install phone systems, They setup the network side very well, then the customer asks for something simple like call pickup and they look blank!!!!

Don't let the machine beat you. There is always a way round.

If every install went to plan, I think I would leave this job and go work in ADSA as it would be boring.

We all love the challenge really or we wouldn't be looking at this forum.

Jamie Green

IPO ACA:Implement

http://www.alliedcom.co.uk

Fooball is not a matter of life and death-It is far more important!!!!