Okay I had two versions of a database. One was the detached database file (.mdf), the other was a backup file (.bak). For Both were done at the same time, but the Bak file seems to not have the latest updates. Is there anything I can do to figure out what transactions have occured on the one one since the other one? Why would they be different, could it be commit issues? I'm totally confused.
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SQL Backup Missing data?
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NoCalAdmin
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have you checked your transaction logs?
Tom
Tom
NoCalAdmin
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how are you backing the databases up? Flat filing?
Tom
Tom
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Is the DB highly active? If there are several transactions say per second then of course there will be differences in the time it takes you to 1) detach a DB and 2) back it up to disk.
when you say there is no trans log do you mean the DB is in simple recovery mode?
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when you say there is no trans log do you mean the DB is in simple recovery mode?
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I was unaware you can have a sql server database without at least one transaction log.
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mrdenny
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You can't have a SQL Server database with out a transaction log. Simple recovery mode is the closest thing.
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Denny
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If I'm not mistaken, transactions can still occur against a DB that someone is backing up. They simply wait until the backup is done to fully commit if the backup is accessing the page in question. This could be the reason for your difference in data.
The best scenario, to get an exact copy, is to kill all connections (but talk to the users first so no data is lost), set the DB to Single_User, back it up, then restore the backup to another DB. At this point, all the data should be identical.
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The best scenario, to get an exact copy, is to kill all connections (but talk to the users first so no data is lost), set the DB to Single_User, back it up, then restore the backup to another DB. At this point, all the data should be identical.
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mrdenny
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Transactions can most definetly occure while the database is being backed up.
When the backup starts all the data in the database at that second is what is backed up. Everything else is commited as it is written. The only difference is that it's not checkpointed from the log to the database until the backup is complete. This gives you a complete relational set of data.
Denny
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When the backup starts all the data in the database at that second is what is backed up. Everything else is commited as it is written. The only difference is that it's not checkpointed from the log to the database until the backup is complete. This gives you a complete relational set of data.
Denny
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