Splice 25 pair cat 3 1

[Q6600]

I need to splice 2 amphenol 25 pair cables together (both cables have one end bare)

Whats the best way to do this? A 66 block? Can I use a standard 25 pair wiring diagram?

Thanks.

 

[bhassell2000]

you can use a 66 block or what ever block you have spare. Match the coloe codes together. I have an amphenol butterfly to install amphonels that I would use but its not something everyone would want to do

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[Q6600]

Yeah I would love to be able to crimp them but I dont have the butterfly tool and they are not cheap.

Thanks.

 

[janaya]

Nope, AMP was real proud of that tool. Ask your cable contractor to come in and terminate the ends. Most cable companies have this tool and it shouldn't be more than 1 hrs work.

 

[bhassell2000]

Wanna but my butterlfy? lol just kidding

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[curtismo]

66 block = poor man's splice.

Can pick up a 66 block at Home Depot if you really need one bad and don't have one in stock.

Don't forget to count your time of dressing and punching down 50 pair of wires, and inserting 50 bridge clips, if needed.

 

[Q6600]

Yeah our vendor wanted quite a bit to come out and crimp everything. I just picked up a 66 block and a bag of jumper clips. I will report back with how it goes.

Thank you everyone.

 

[PERRYPJ]

3M Scotchlok UY2 is use them all the time, google it

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[DocVic]

Beans"!!!!!

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[Q6600]

I have seen those "beans" before. Never knew the real name, thanks. That would be a nice quick fix, but I actually rather enjoyed punching down everything on the 66 block. Thats the first time I have fully filled a block, or heck even bought one.

I know a lot of the people here eat and breathe Nortel/telco stuff, but its a hat I only occasionally get to wear. My primary "day job" is IT (windows servers, medical interfaces etc) So this is all really new ground for me. Its very fun and exciting.

After watching our vendor in action of migrating us from an option 61c to a CS1000E, I went from just barely knowing how to make new mail boxes in meridian mail and renaming phones in LD 95 to now actually building sets, changing keys, adding and removing classes of service etc. (ie what we would previous PAY for, basic M.A.C. stuff)

We purchased telephony manager with our upgrade, but the more I learn the Nortel command line the more I think I like it better. Its a shame that its probably going to get phased out eventually.

Anyway, everything worked out good. After the "splice" I got to do the pull, which quickly re-reminded me why I dont pull wire for a living

Pics in next post...

 

[Q6600]

I know this is probably childs play to most people here, but it was good punching practice to a greenhorn like me.

Done in one of our conference rooms so I had some space...

100 foot Bertek cat 3 25 pair bare both ends.
66 block, clips, cover.
25 foot Allen Tel 25 pair cat 3 w/female amphenol.
Custom cable from Nortel - male amphenol to female DB25.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2yvo4td.jpg

25 foot Allen Tel with foreskin pulled back, pairs in groups.

http://i50.tinypic.com/308h6if.jpg

25 foot Allen Tel 1/2 way done (rubber band helped keep it tight, and I got my super cool color code on the left)

http://i50.tinypic.com/5u2qt0.jpg

25 foot Allen Tel done

http://i46.tinypic.com/2cqxkhs.jpg

Same, side view

http://i47.tinypic.com/313hjdh.jpg

Bertek with foreskin being opened

http://i48.tinypic.com/2dvlpav.jpg

Completed "poor mans splice"

http://i46.tinypic.com/j77tib.jpg

 

[bhassell2000]

The "office" scissors just kill me lol

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[RyanEOD]

Is it just me or did you punch them with the cut blade facing up? I don't know if it is just me, but I always have my blade facing down and take the wire in from the top of the pins, then punch it down. I guess it doesn't matter, just something I saw.

 

[steeljim]

LOL... Ryan he did punch it down upside down but it works.

 

[Q6600]

Ha! My yellow fiskars own your klein snips

Thanks for writing down about my upside down punch downs. Next time Ill have it down.

(seriously, thats why I posted the pics, I love any comments that may "set me straight")

 

[janaya]

no kidding......but we have to bust his chops a little

I have a co-worker that uses a small pair of Fiskars and I crack everytime he pulls them out.

this is great. I have been on this board for a while and have been doing this work since 92 and it's always good to see someone truly learn something new. It is a great accomlishment and that is why I love doing this. I still learn new things all the time.

But stealing an admins scissors...come on.

 

[GHTROUT]

I've never seen a use for them scissors except for cutting labels. I still don't know why people use them when side cutters exist. Ya, I own a pair of Klein Scissors too. I use them for toenails.

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[DocVic]

Beans are B-Connectors. They are used in those large black case splices you see in aerial and under ground and are used by the thousands by cable splicers. Maybe not so much anymore, but I still use them for all kinds of things. I mostly chew them now. Yeah, I know, "they have metal inside", but my teeth haven't all fallen out yet.

Q6600, great job! Janaya is right, it's always good to see someone learning. This product line and Rolm have taught me something everyday for the last 30 years. To bad Avaya will knock it off, like IBM killed the Rolm system. I'm retiring soon anyway...

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