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Rhys666
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- May 20, 2003
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Don't know the reliability of the source or who Billy Tauzin is, but hey, if it's vaguely true what are u Americans gonna do about it?
Come on, please, I know most of you here seem to be pretty intelligent and well read on subjects such as this but can any of you explain how your legislative process is leaning this way?
I won't be internet connected from home soon, but will watch this space where I can as if this kind of thing gets a serious reading thru' your senate/house of congress etc I may well consider that a blessing.
An no, 'm not digging at Americans in general, just this amazingly strange and unbelievable turn of events, or particularly biased piece of reporting I guess.
Having just finished Harry Potter 5, I'd also have to say the report above makes the US Congress seem like the Ministry of Magic, and Mr Tauzin like Cornelius Fudge
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Rhys
Be careful that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a train coming the other way.
Come on, please, I know most of you here seem to be pretty intelligent and well read on subjects such as this but can any of you explain how your legislative process is leaning this way?
I won't be internet connected from home soon, but will watch this space where I can as if this kind of thing gets a serious reading thru' your senate/house of congress etc I may well consider that a blessing.
An no, 'm not digging at Americans in general, just this amazingly strange and unbelievable turn of events, or particularly biased piece of reporting I guess.
Having just finished Harry Potter 5, I'd also have to say the report above makes the US Congress seem like the Ministry of Magic, and Mr Tauzin like Cornelius Fudge
...Rhys
Be careful that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a train coming the other way.
CajunCenturion
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Billy Tauzin is a US Representative from Louisiana who introduced one of about a dozen anti-spam bills currently being cussed and discussed before congress. Tauzin's bill in particular, had a number of limitations that do not exist in several of the other bills under consideration.
You may also find the following reading interesting.
Rhys666 - Given this additional information, I tend to think that original post falls into the "particularly biased piece of reporting" category.
Good Luck
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As a circle of light increases so does the circumference of darkness around it. - Albert Einstein
You may also find the following reading interesting.
Rhys666 - Given this additional information, I tend to think that original post falls into the "particularly biased piece of reporting" category.
Good Luck
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As a circle of light increases so does the circumference of darkness around it. - Albert Einstein
GlenJohnson
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With junk advertising using snail-mail, it makes money if one letter in a hundred is something that the recipient wants. Quite a lot of unwanted stuff, and I have never ever got anything I actually wanted, but there are limits.
With e-mail spam, the wonderful speed and cheapness gets perverted into something that wastes a lot of time for a lot of people. If you cost your own time at minimum-wage rates--and I expect most of us get a lot more per that - they are effectively stealing money from you.
Opt-in is the only sensible rule. You can sign up for anything you'd actually like and not be bombared with utter rubbish. (Men being offered breast enlargement, and presumably women also offered stuff they have no use for.)
With e-mail spam, the wonderful speed and cheapness gets perverted into something that wastes a lot of time for a lot of people. If you cost your own time at minimum-wage rates--and I expect most of us get a lot more per that - they are effectively stealing money from you.
Opt-in is the only sensible rule. You can sign up for anything you'd actually like and not be bombared with utter rubbish. (Men being offered breast enlargement, and presumably women also offered stuff they have no use for.)
I think the only way to go is the way we do it in Europe.
And trust me, I know the spam problem. I think I have the most spammed email address in the world. I have my own domain that only count my own email address. This domain is getting 3.000 spam emails a day (counted before the last hipe in worms)
I am now using to filter my mail and now I can again use my email address.
The real big difference in Smail spam and Email spam is who is paying the main cost. On Smail it's the sender, on Email it's the poor guy receiving the stuff.
On Email they only need something like 1 out of a 1.000.000 to buy the product to still get money out of it.
But it wouldn't be a big problem if the US applied the rules only to be applied in the US.
I realy don't give a dam for a reference to a US bill that the spammer thinks gives him the right to spam me on the other side of our planet.
If the US goverment doesn't put a real plug into this spamming problem spam will close the internet down. It's that simple.
Before I started to use there was 500 or more email in my mailbox every day I came home from work. I just started to delete them all because I couldn't find the 3 emails that was for me.
/johnny
And trust me, I know the spam problem. I think I have the most spammed email address in the world. I have my own domain that only count my own email address. This domain is getting 3.000 spam emails a day (counted before the last hipe in worms)
I am now using to filter my mail and now I can again use my email address.
The real big difference in Smail spam and Email spam is who is paying the main cost. On Smail it's the sender, on Email it's the poor guy receiving the stuff.
On Email they only need something like 1 out of a 1.000.000 to buy the product to still get money out of it.
But it wouldn't be a big problem if the US applied the rules only to be applied in the US.
I realy don't give a dam for a reference to a US bill that the spammer thinks gives him the right to spam me on the other side of our planet.
If the US goverment doesn't put a real plug into this spamming problem spam will close the internet down. It's that simple.
Before I started to use there was 500 or more email in my mailbox every day I came home from work. I just started to delete them all because I couldn't find the 3 emails that was for me.
/johnny
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An email system that had some sort of authentication would really destroy spam, but how to make it work.
A system that could stop email spoofing would be just as good, where perhaps the receiver of the email would reply to the sender to check they were who they said they were before sending.
But I suppose that would be open to abuse for DOSing other machines.
oh well.
A system that could stop email spoofing would be just as good, where perhaps the receiver of the email would reply to the sender to check they were who they said they were before sending.
But I suppose that would be open to abuse for DOSing other machines.
oh well.
X.400 would be great for this.
Problem is that most people would like to have x.400 functionality, at the price and flexibility of SMTP
The basic problem is that what made the internet great was the lack of control, but this is also what will bring it down again.
/johnny
Problem is that most people would like to have x.400 functionality, at the price and flexibility of SMTP
The basic problem is that what made the internet great was the lack of control, but this is also what will bring it down again.
/johnny
malaycobra
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- Mar 11, 2002
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Why not just go after the advertisers? They are the ones paying for this crap to be mailed to us!
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