Sip Trunks and License.

[CPM86]

I just wanted some clarification on this. I have read and read about sip, sip trunks, sip third party, sip this and that with vcm 32 cards.

1. I have a IP office 500v2 partner edition and that is a simple answer. 3 sip lines provided.

2. I also have a IP office 500v2 Essential license edition 8.0 and can setup a sip lines.
But, I thought I need a license to use it or is that just for trunks?

I ask this because I'm thinking of purchasing a router (probably a cisco) and fxs / fxo ports with or without t1 cards to connect them to the ip office systems.
I see I"m covered for the partner edition. But not sure on the Essential edition.

Also I have looked up connecting the two systems with a t1 cross over cable. I noticed I might have the same issue with licensing for that.

On a side note and has nothing to do with the above. I finally tracked down a TCM-8 Card for Nortel phones.
Also as a joke I put the Cisco on hold music on the system too.

Thanks,
Josh

 

[Nortel4Ever]

SIP trunks require licenses per trunk
Avaya IP phones whether they be h.323 or SIP require an Avaya IP Client license per phone
3rd party SIP devices (ALGO SIP Alerter) require an Avaya 3rd party SIP license per device
A combo card has 10 VCM channels built in, if you need more then obviously a VCM 32 or 64
If your IPO is only at 8.0 you will not be able to purchase licenses until you upgrade to at least 10.0 as Avaya changed the licensing model with 10.0

 

[CPM86]

Thank you for the reply. I know about the upgrade license. Since this is a home lab project. I'm not doing any of that.
I do know that the VCM 32 / 64 has licenses built in and I'm using that to run my Avaya and 1 Nortel voip phone.
I know a third party sip device requires a third party sip license except certain model of Nortel sip phones after Release 6 I think. (Works fine on 8)

I think I'm confusing myself on sip trunk vs sip ilne.

A sip trunk is multiple lines and requires a license.
A sip line is a single line. Like a single analog phone line for home use. The partner version support 3 sip lines.

Thus, for sip line support in Essential edition. Do I require a sip trunk license for a sip line?

Also yes that would limit me on FXS and FXO Ports via a Cisco. I'm keeping that for another post when I actually get a router. I know I'm going to be limited by licenses at that time.

Thanks,

Josh

 

[ipohead]

The terminology isn't always exact but usually a SIP trunk is the same as a SIP line.

In IP Office they are called SIP lines and each can have as as many channels as allocated by your provider. Licences are per concurrent call. A line can have a single phone number or multiple DDIs if allocated by your provider.

As above you'll need to upgrade to R10 at least if you want to add SIP lines. You can use an ATA (analogue telephony adapter) but you'd need an ATM card in the IPO. You can get gateways for ISDN but you'd need to do some searching. You might be lucky and pick up a bargain as ISDN is being phased out (at least in the UK). All depends on how many numbers or channels you are looking at.

PRI E1/T1 cards don't need a licence for the first 8 channels and a crossover cable will work. You might need a licence for some advanced functions.

 

[CPM86]

I was going to save this for another post in the future. I already have several ATM cards.
As explained above I have 1 t1 card and I'm going to get another so both units will have a t1 card.
Then I have an Partner ACS 6 that I'm thinking of getting a T1 card for. Though I found out years ago is does not support caller id.

The only reason I will be messing around with T1 is my Son is currently in college and part of the course covers network / routers / Cisco.
Thus, I'll be picking up a used router to work with. The idea of T1's is because as pointed out above. No license is required and seems to be a
simple way of connecting systems together. Plus for home playing around with network. 8 Channels should be plenty.

Thanks,

Josh