Yesterday I had to replace yet another hard drive that failed. A while ago I was told it was making noise so I built another drive in a spare 9006 from the site's backup tape. Can a standard pc hard drive could be used in the system? I noticed the connector on the drive and card are 50 pin, E-IDE?. I got a spare drive to try but see that it has 40 pins. I wonder if there is a 40 - 50 pin female adaptor available? 50 pins on the Hard drive/DAT card and 40 for the hard drive. Even if there is such an adaptor/cable the question remains would a hard drive, such as a 20-40gig from an old Dell pc be compatible?
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Siemens 9006 Mod 30 hard drive.
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To the best of my knowledge the HD in a Siemens Mod 30 is a SCSI Drive - it is either only a 2GB drive, or only 2GB of it is formatted. I don't think it is any bigger than that, or what would happen when you tried to format a standard bigger drive. It's NOT IDE! 
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I had snapped up several used systems many years ago, and used them to do HD recoveries. There is one drive you don't want to use - I don't remember if that was the Quantum drive or something different, but one of the types will not spin up if you put it into a live system until you power cycle it. The other one(s) you can set up in a different box, and then DEACT the drive in the bad box if it's still running. ACT the new drive and it will spin up, and then you can do EXE-UPDAT on it a couple of times before you do ACT-XAPC to fire the unix back up (base, not boot).
I don't know if I have a dead drive lying at this site. If I can find one I'll post the part number so you can search the internet to see if you find one similar.
)I had snapped up several used systems many years ago, and used them to do HD recoveries. There is one drive you don't want to use - I don't remember if that was the Quantum drive or something different, but one of the types will not spin up if you put it into a live system until you power cycle it. The other one(s) you can set up in a different box, and then DEACT the drive in the bad box if it's still running. ACT the new drive and it will spin up, and then you can do EXE-UPDAT on it a couple of times before you do ACT-XAPC to fire the unix back up (base, not boot).
I don't know if I have a dead drive lying at this site. If I can find one I'll post the part number so you can search the internet to see if you find one similar.
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The first thing would be to obtain the 40 to 50 pin adaptor, if it exists, to install the a drive with a 40 pin connector on the assembly, then run the STA-DSKFH command to format it. I showed two others knowledgeable about PCs who stated it's an IDE drive, but that's still not official. The drive capacity is quite small, when running the recovery utility I've chosen the 1GB option on a Mod 30E.
I lied. It's only a 1GB drive. Seagate ST31051N, 50-pin SCSI2, $105 at the link below, who I know nothing about, just an example. I ran downstairs and grabbed it off the table, so this is a drive that was in an actual 9006 box.
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Thanks! Well that's good to know some still exist. I'm not at work now but it looks very familiar. When I researched about the 50 pin connector results shows it was not an IDE drive but a SCSI like you said. I found a photo - not sure how to post it here. I think a while back you may have provided tips how to do so. I may use the 'Public' portion of my Skydrive. The photo shows what I believe is the 50 pin connector. You know what it looks like - thought I'd post it here for others to see since I'd still like to see if there's any way to adapt another type of hard drive, or ideally, but not likely - a SCSI2 to SD or USB adaptor.
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Looks like that didn't work. Trying this:
That worked, in a roundabout way! Yes, the SCSI2 connector looks just like an IDE connector but longer.
Even if you did manage to find a SCSI to IDE adapter so you can use a different drive, the switch is probably not going to know what it is and it won't work. The beast is probably going to cost just as much as being safe and picking up a drive that is supposed to go in there.
One thing I don't know is if the unix recovery procedure will format the drive. I have always done it using drives from scrap systems, or the one time I bought one from Black Box for some ungodly amount of many and it came already formatted, so I don't know how that works.
Even if you did manage to find a SCSI to IDE adapter so you can use a different drive, the switch is probably not going to know what it is and it won't work. The beast is probably going to cost just as much as being safe and picking up a drive that is supposed to go in there.
One thing I don't know is if the unix recovery procedure will format the drive. I have always done it using drives from scrap systems, or the one time I bought one from Black Box for some ungodly amount of many and it came already formatted, so I don't know how that works.
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You can't fix a noisy drive, but I have, in times of absolute emergency, been able to resurrect seized drives long enough to get the data off of them as best I could. I've had seized drives that I put in the freezer for a couple of hours and they would run as long as I kept them "on ice" so I could get the data off, and I've violated every conscionable rule of HD repair and opened them up and hand-spun the spindle until it was free enough to run on its own long enough to get the data off. Those are drastic panic measures though and nothing I would trust to something that needed to stay running.
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