Search engines only linking to one frame.

KnudNexo · Jan 23, 2002

I have a page with frames.
I like that my page shows up quite well in most search engines but when you follow a link from most search engines to my site only the page with the content is loaded. Not the other frames.
Is there a way to get my frames to load up when these links are followed?
I still want search engines to be able to see the content for my site.
What is the best solution to my problem.

BobbaFet · Jan 24, 2002

Hi KnudNexo,

This is what I use for my homepage (the version I'm talking about isnt uploaded yet).

The files that are not supposed to be outside the frame must have this script:

<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
onload=function(){
var thisLocation = document.location;
if( document.location == top.location ) {
top.location.replace("Help.htm&quot

;
top.document.cookie = "content=" +thisLocation;
}
}
//-->
</script>

and in the main frameset put this script:

<script language="JavaScript">
<!--

function getCookieVal(offset) {
var endstr=document.cookie.indexOf(";",offset);
if (endstr==-1)endstr=document.cookie.length;
return unescape(document.cookie.substring(offset, endstr));
}
function GetCookie(name) {
var arg=name+"=";
var alen=arg.length;
var clen=document.cookie.length;
var i=0;
while(i<clen){
var j=i+alen;
if(document.cookie.substring(i,j)==arg)return getCookieVal(j);
i=document.cookie.indexOf(" ",i)+1;
if(i==0)break;
}
return null;
}

var contentCookie = GetCookie("content&quot

;
var contentDest = "HelpSplash.htm";

if( (contentCookie != null) && (contentCookie.indexOf("htm&quot

!= -1) ) {
document.cookie = "content="; // Wipe out the cookie
contentDest = contentCookie;
}

var str="";
str+="<FRAMESET ROWS=\"43px,*\" BORDER=\"0\" FRAMESPACING=\"0\" FRAMEBORDER=\"0\">";
str+="<FRAME SRC=\"file.html\" ID=\"menufr\" NAME=\"menufr\" FRAMEBORDER=\"0\" NORESIZE MARGINHEIGHT=\"0\" MARGINWIDTH=\"0\">";
str+="<FRAME SRC=\""+contentDest+"\" ID=\"contentfr\" NAME=\"contentfr\" FRAMEBORDER=\"0\" MARGINHEIGHT=\"0\" MARGINWIDTH=\"0\" SCROLLING=\"yes\">";
str+="</FRAMESET>";
str+="<NOFRAMES><BODY></BODY></NOFRAMES>";
document.write(str);

//-->
</script>

Like magic

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KnudNexo · Jan 24, 2002

Bobbafet this is just the sort of thing I'm after, but I can only get this to work for htm pages.
The main content for my site is from a perl script. I have addresses like
http://www.savannah.aust.com/cgiscripts/display.pl?display=main

and http://www.savannah.aust.com/cgiscripts/display.pl?display=h11511

clicking on either of these links will open the page but not inside the frames of the rest of the site. If I add your Javascript, it loads the frames but cannot reconise the ".pl" I think because it just loads the default content page.

how can I adjust this javascript to include the whole content "display.pl?display=main"

also do you know if search engines will still be able to index my pages with this javascript running?

BobbaFet · Jan 25, 2002

yes, they can index any page on your site, but as far as
the "display.pl?display=main" is concerned, i haven't got a clue on how to that. This script was written for straight HTML, but what you could try is hardcoding the thisLocation variable for each page. So instead of using :

var thisLocation = document.location;

you could try this:

var thisLocation = '
http://www.savannah.aust.com/cgiscripts/display.pl?display=h11511';

I hope this helps,
BobbaFet

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E-mail me at caswegkamp@hotmail.com

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BobbaFet · Jan 25, 2002

this means mean you'll have to hardcode it for every framed page. I dont know of any other way to do it.
BobbaFet

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gerrygerry · Jan 28, 2002

If i understand the posts I just read, you have a script named display.pl that you could modify to generate a framset, one frame always having the same thing in it (a footer or a navigation bar, whatever - it doesn't matter) and the other frame having whatever the ?display=_______ is? Just hard code the nav or the footer into your script and your current links would work fine, whats the problem?

Sample display.pl:

Code:

my ($url) = $in{'display'};
$url .= &quot;.html&quot;;

print &quot;Content-type: text/html\n\n&quot;;
print <<HTML;
<html>
<head>
<title>Your Page Title Here</title>
</head>
<frameset rows=&quot;150,*&quot;>
<frame name=&quot;top&quot; src=&quot;[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.domain.com/top.html&quot;[/URL] scrolling=&quot;no&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot;>
<frameset cols=&quot;150,*&quot;>
	<frame name=&quot;leftframe&quot; src=&quot;[URL unfurl="true"]http://www.domain.com/navigation.html&quot;[/URL] scrolling=&quot;no&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot;>
	<frame name=&quot;rightframe&quot; src=

Code:

$url

Code:

 scrolling=&quot;auto&quot; frameborder=&quot;0&quot;>
</frameset>
</frameset>

<noframes>
	<center><b>[ <a href=

Code:

$url

Code:

>Your browser doesn't support frames. Click here to continue</a> ]</b></center>
</noframes>

</body>
</html>
HTML
}

Could you modify this to do what u need? I can help you with your perl if you'll post the spot of code used to generate the frameset. -gerrygerry
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gerrygerry · Jan 28, 2002

This could also been done with js (and not with cookies).
Put this as an OnLoad in each of your pages (the ones generated by display.pl):

Code:

function checknav()
{
if (parent.location.href == self.location.href)
	{window.location.href = 'index.html?'+self.location.href;}
}

Put this as your index.html page:

Code:

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<script>
function fillFrame() {
var default_page = &quot;home.html&quot;;  // change to your default frame page

var content = (location.search) ? location.search.substring(1, location.search.length) : default_page;

parent.main.location.href = content;
}
</script>
</HEAD>
<frameset cols=&quot;150,*&quot; onLoad=&quot;fillFrame();&quot;>
  <frame name=&quot;toc&quot; scrolling=&quot;no&quot; noresize src=&quot;toc&quot;>
  <frame name=&quot;main&quot; src=&quot;loading.html&quot; scrolling=&quot;auto&quot;>
</frameset>
</HTML>

I threw this together so there may be a few errors (something from a site I made a while back - i may have accidentally cut out some lines) but give it a try anyway. -gerrygerry
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KnudNexo · Jan 29, 2002

Thanks GerryGerry and Bobbafet I have it working now

GerryGerry Here is what I did.
I made a new perlscript displayframes.pl as follows.

#########################################################

sub get_input {
# Get the input from the STDIN and ENV...
read(STDIN, $inbuffer, $ENV{'CONTENT_LENGTH'});
$qsbuffer = $ENV{'QUERY_STRING'};

foreach $buffer ($inbuffer,$qsbuffer) {

# Split the name/value pairs...
@pairs = split(/&/, $buffer);

foreach $pair (@pairs) {
($name, $value) = split(/=/, $pair);

$value =~ tr/+/ /;
$value =~ s/%([a-fA-F0-9][a-fA-F0-9])/pack("C", hex($1))/eg;
$value =~ s///g;

$value =~ s/~!/ ~!/g;

$value =~ s/<([^>]|\n)*>//g;
$FORM{$name} = $value;
}
}
}

#Body of perl script

&get_input;
use CGI;

$url = "$FORM{'display'}";
if ($url eq "&quot

{
$url = "main"
}

print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
print <<HTML;
<html>

<head>
<title>Savannah Equipment Pty Ltd - $url</title>
</head>

<frameset framespacing="0" border="false" frameborder="0" rows="40,*,40">
<frame name="rtop" target="rmiddle" src="../savannahaustralia/top_menu.htm" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0"
marginheight="0" noresize>
<frameset cols="140,*">
<frame name="left" src="../savannahaustralia/left_bar_buttons.htm" target="rmiddle" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no" noresize>
<frame name="rmiddle" src="display.pl?display=$url" target="_self">
</frameset>
<frame name="rbottom" src="../savannahaustralia/bottom.htm" scrolling="no" marginwidth="0"
marginheight="0" noresize target="rmiddle">

<noframes>
<body>
<center><b>[ <a href=display.pl?display=$url>Your browser doesn't support frames. Click here to continue</a> ]</b></center>
</body>
</noframes>
</frameset>
</html>
HTML

print <<EndFooter;
</body>
</html>
EndFooter
##########################################################

Then in my original display.pl I added the JS

##########################################################
print <<framejavascript;
<script language="JavaScript">
<!--
onload=function(){
if( document.location == top.location ) {
top.location.replace("displayframes.pl?display=$FORM{'display'}&quot

;
}
}
//-->
</script>
</head>
<body>
framejavascript
##########################################################

This all seems to work with the one small problem that When you open the display.pl not inside the frames it loads up completely before then loading up the frames. (only a small problem.) Thanks

here is a link to display.pl

http://www.savannah.aust.com/cgiscripts/display.pl?display=x9592

gerrygerry · Jan 29, 2002

I like your site! I didn't notice any problems. I tried the link you gave, which worked fine, and I tried just accessing

http://www.savannah.aust.com/cgiscripts/display.pl.

Both seemed to work fine. Could you explain you problem a bit more? I'd be glad to help! -gerrygerry
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KnudNexo · Jan 29, 2002

Not a real problem it's just that the page fully loads up (on my browser anyway) before it switches to the framed version. I can live with it.

gerrygerry · Jan 29, 2002

If you do you js in the very beginning, you should be ok... try this:

Code:

<html>
<head>
<script>
 if( document.location == top.location ) 
{top.location.replace(&quot;displayframes.pl?display=$FORM{'display'}&quot;);
</script>
</head>
<body>
...

-gerrygerry
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