SCSI Hard Drives and IDE Hard Drive

[Bkster]

Hello,

This is the situation. I have a Gateway Computer that is about 3 years old. It was ordered with two SCSI Ultra 2 9 gig hard drives. I just purchased a IDE Western Digital 120 gig hard drive. I purchase a Y power adaptor and installed the Western Digital in the third hard drive slot. I set the jumper on the drive to the slave setting.
I then started the computer and this is what happens. As it starts up it identifies the two hard drives:

SCSI ID: 0 IBM DMVS09V ULTRA2 -LVD HARD DISK 0
SCSI ID: 1 IBM DMVS09V ULTRA2 -LVD HARD DISK 1

Time-out Failure During SCSI Inquiry Command

I can hear each of the hard drives start to spin prior to these lines being posted. It then goes to a screen which ID all of my systems stats.
At the bottom of this page it indicates that it cannot find Boot Record from CDROM or Floppy or IDE-0
Then it stats unable to load SCSI BIOS

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Brian

 

[edfair]

The IDs are normal from the SCSI controller BIOS.
Did you install the operating system on the IDE? Your message indicates not. Ed Fair
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[dinosnake]

Most BIOSes detect the IDE channel's boot devices before any add-on mezzanine bus, like SCSI. The SCSI BIOS installs after the first BIOS bootstrap.

If your BIOS has the setting for boot order please make sure SCSI is set first. If it does not offer that function try removing any references to the boot order except floppy. The BIOS should then default to the SCSI BIOS overlay.

Please also try installing the drive as a slave on the Secondary IDE channel and then TURN OFF the Primary channel. It could be BIOS or IRQ conflicts. Your mileage may vary...

 

[Bkster]

Thanks for the response. I went into the SCSI utility and performed a scan. It got hung up and timed out on ID#5. By looking were the cables went I assumed that this was going to the floopy drive. I unplugged it and it rebooted fine. What do think that is about? Thanks

 

[edfair]

Possible indication that the device was partially plugged.
I've never seen a floppy on a SCSI chain. Are you sure it wasn't the CD, as they come in SCSI. Ed Fair
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[dinosnake]

Neither have I, until now. Did a search an sure enough, SCSI floppies. Very unusual because they are expensive. Most people would just use the motherboard's floppy interface instead.

Please check the usual causes - power, interface cable (and on yours) jumpers for ID, termination (a big one. If passively terminated a SCSI change can go unstable at almost any time. Heck, even with active termination it can cause problems), drive type in setup.

If your system truly uses SCSI floppy, could it be that when you installed a motherboard-operated drive the motherboard will not release the int's for the floppy to the host controller? Your mileage may vary...

 

[Bkster]

I am sorry I was incorrect. You know the saying "I know enough just to get myself in trouble" That would be me. It was in fact the CD Rom. Thanks for research effort dinosnake. I guess I need to follow the same steps ie.. check the power supply, jumper settings, termination.
Thanks again for the help. This problem did not occur until I opened the case and moved stuff around installing the IDE hard drive. What shold I look at first? Bad cable???

Brian

 

[edfair]

Pull the IDE and see if everything works as before. You need to know whether you glitched the existing before you can troubleshoot the additional.
I wouldn't sweat the power, cables, and termination until I had double checked everything else. It is very unlikely that any of them went bad at the same time.
Once you have it working as before you add the IDE back. Ed Fair
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