Saving a pantone + black eps but NOT a duotone 1

[crazyeights]

I have being using ps for years and have nevr had to do this. My design is one pantone plus a grayscale image. I need to place it in my Illustrator file. The only way I can figure it is to use a duotone, but that doesn't really work for me as I'm not wanting my pantone blending in any way with black, and it seems to force this. I would set the pms colour in illustrator except for the fact that it is a soft edged shape that I can't recreate effectively.
Any suggestions? I'm on PS cs (8).

Thanks!

 

[duncdude]

this is too vague... are the two elements blending in any way? I guess they are. If so what is the pantone depicting? How do the 'images' overlay?


Kind Regards
Duncan

 

[crazyeights]

On one layer I have a pms coloured 'jet stream' no black at all, and on the top layer I have a grayscale airplane. This is for a 2 col business card. The reason I am using PS rather than Illustrator for the pms colour as I normally would, is that I want the jet stream to fade out and be very soft in style, and I can't get the same look in AI.

I want to place my ps file as either an eps or tiff into my base art in AI. I think it would have to be an eps as I don't think ps tiffs support pms colours...

I could do an elaborate work around, but I'm looking for hopefully an easy solution.

Thanks,
Jen

 

[kylebellamy]

You can do a multichannel and see if that works.

Select the entire layer for the jetstream and copy then delete the layer. Go to the Image menu -> Mode -> Multichannel. It'll ask to flatten and say ok.

Then go to the layers and select the channels tab and hit the new button. Paste the old layer into the new channel and double click on the blank part where the name goes and it should bring up the color picker where you cna change to the Pantone colors and select.

Show both and move the thing around until you get it where you want it. You'll have to save as a DCS file and I don't know what Illustrator will do with that format but that's how I do a lot of the art I need to have overlap but not blend.

If you wnat, email me and I can send you an example so you get the idea.

Kyle

http://www.kylebellamy.com

 

[crazyeights]

Thanks Kyle,

I'll give that a try. I think the dcs file is still in an eps format, so I can do a test to make sure it separates o.k. once in Illustrator.

Jen

 

[kylebellamy]

I was looking for a tutorial on it but no luck. Most people don't use that format for what you or I would in printing. But it does do a good job if you cna get it to work right. Generally, I make the DCS and place that in the layout program like Quark.

http://www.kylebellamy.com

 

[Chadoe]

I have to do this often for our newsletter. Here is what you do.

First ALWAYS work on a copy of the original file!
1. Open the grayscale airplane image and do whatever edits/adjustments you need to do.

2. Select the portion of the image you want to stay grayscale.

3. Decide how much you want the 'jet stream' to overlap the airplane. Then Select> Modify> Contract by that much (For a soft edge overlap do a Select> Feather 1-2 pixels less than your Contract) and Select> Inverse.

4. Open your Channels Pallet. Click on it's Options arrow and select 'New Spot Channel'. Your selection will become a Spot Channel.

5. Click on the Ink Characteristics> Color box to select/create your 'jet stream' color, name the Spot Color and adjust the Solidity % for ink coverage (for one color use 100%, overprinting of multiple channels check with your printer, but usually add channels to total of 90-100%).

6. You can now see the two channels approx. how they will print. To see each channel alone as a 'plate', click off one of the channel's eyes to see the other. You can jump between them by clicking on each channel's name. In this view you can also edit each channel individually.

Save as a DCS 2.0 EPS (Single File with Color Preview), Tiff, Photoshop PDF or Photoshop PSD file.

See easy and fun. I hope this helps!
Chadoe

 

[kylebellamy]

Hey that's another good way to do it I hadn't thought of. Nice work!

http://www.kylebellamy.com

 

[crazyeights]

Thanks for all the handy info!