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chiefred

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Sep 2, 2002
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I have a customer that wants all the cables in their home hidden in the walls. No problem with the exception of two locations that are on an outside wall. I can not get to the header to drill down --going up the wall is not an option due to romex and a fire break running in the stud bay. I asked the customer (who does not want panduit) if I can punch through the wall under the header, and punch up into the ceiling at the seam of the wall and ceiling--I can at least run the cable and grab it with a gopher pole and hook. The customer wants a small box to be mounted that I can run the cable through. I was thinking of a right angle corner fitting by panduit --- any other suggestions.

Thanks
 
You can also put some decorative crown modling on the top of the wall to hide your wires/holes.

 
Panduit does have the Cove raceway that looks like crown molding.

Justin T. Clausen
Physical Layer Implementation
California State University, Monterey Bay
 
I am considering cutting a patch out from stud to stud in that stud bay, so I can screw the patch back on and then just put some compound around the cut---the customer is having the rooms repainted. The crown molding is too expensive for me to consider----I would have to do the whole house. Thanks for your suggestions--and if anyone has another idea--let me know as I will make the cuts in 4 more days.

Thanks

 
Only one of the cables is for Data--the rest are phone and coaxial---wifi is an excellent suggestion--only wish there was a wireless TV scenario
 
There is IR for TV,but is is line of sight.

Rick Harris
SC Dept of Motor Vehicles
Network Operations
 
Actually there has been many years of Wifi for TV except it only broadcasts one channel at a time. I have a friend who didn't want to wire up his house for SAT TV in another room so he bought some Recotron transmitters that are connected from the output of the SAT receiver. Then on the remote TV, he installed a Recotron receiver and connected it straight to the TV. Then to change channels on the SAT receiver from the remote location, he installed these small Pyramid IR-to-RF transmitters. The transmitter was installed on top of the TV and the receiver which basically reconverts the RF back to IR at the SAT receiver end. The little Pyramid had be installed in direct line of sight with the receiver. Bear in mind this setup was already working 4 or 5 years ago and all parts were available at your favorite Radio Shack !
 
Thanks--I may be wrong--but I think that allows streaming from your computer to your television..... what I meant by wireless for TV was just that.............the cable feed to a wireless modem/router--and then a wireless receiver on the TV. I don't think anyone is there yet, but it will be nice if they do get there.

 
This sort of customer is unfairly putting you in a no-win situation: His home is finished, but now--after the fact--he wants cabling behind those finished walls, as if there's "some way" a "pro" can work miracles...with no demolition of drywall. Fact is, sometimes they have to pick their poison: Either be willing to cut walls and ceilings and patch/repaint, or skip the project. With firestops, it makes the task even worse. I've never had a firestop that I can remember that I could drill through from top or bottom that I then managed to fish through. Usually it meant cutting the wall to the north or south of it enough to get a drill bit into the space. The way I see it, if you're going to cut, cut plenty of sheetrock to do all you need to do...the drywaller can fix a large area just as easily as a small one, and he's going to charge mostly for his trip and set up. So have him fix several square feet while he's at it.
 
I always tell these people how much I love to use my little saw!

Exverizon hit it on the mark, most times there is no way around cutting walls and ceilings. I tell my customers also that there is a point of diminishing returns. I can spend all day at $125/hr trying to do the job with a minimum of hole cutting or I can do the job in half a day and they can have someone come and patch for $12/hr.

-Hal
 
Holy mackeral! If you're getting $125/hr, Hal, you must be one handsome dude.

I'm reworking my fees right now! Folks have told me my rates are decent at $80 for the 1st hr, $40 for hrs beyond, plus material. And I'm in D.C.--an expensive area. Should I call, raise, or fold?
 
Expensive area? Try Westchester County, NY where a 3 bedroom fixer upper will cost you $750,000. We are also right next to Greenwich CT and Bedford, NY- home of the rich and famous.

-Hal
 
those yankees are such suckers

love texas, aint gonna leave anytime soon

tomcruz.net
 
Man, oh man. And to think Manhattan was let go for a string of beads...and I'm a (very little) part American Indian. We wuz robbed!! Git me my war paint!
 
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