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Remote Utilities How can I get them
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9.1 is the most recent version for 6.0 software support.
9.0 can be downloaded from quick-manuals.com for $25. They may even have 9.1 now, I haven't checked.
It's freely downloadable by certified Norstar resellers from the nortelnetworks web site, so I'm not sure why anyone would need to charge $750 for it. I could probably be pursuaded to send someone a copy if they sent me a blank CD and prepaid mailer..
9.0 can be downloaded from quick-manuals.com for $25. They may even have 9.1 now, I haven't checked.
It's freely downloadable by certified Norstar resellers from the nortelnetworks web site, so I'm not sure why anyone would need to charge $750 for it. I could probably be pursuaded to send someone a copy if they sent me a blank CD and prepaid mailer..
curlycord
Programmer
Those are only manuals from quick-manuals so dont waste your money.
They charge $750.00 because just like Windows or any other software you must pay for it otherwise it is software piracy.
Those of us who have access to the downloads on Nortel site should now that it is only for your company use since you are a dealer.
They charge $750.00 because just like Windows or any other software you must pay for it otherwise it is software piracy.
Those of us who have access to the downloads on Nortel site should now that it is only for your company use since you are a dealer.
Actually, the quick-manuals.com site offers the real software for immediate download _not_ just manuals as curlycord suggests without checking for himself.
Personally, I think it is unethical to sell remote software for as much $$ as a small phone system costs. Nortel already has the worst black market problem in the telecom business by far. Our Nortel rep says Nortel cares about their resellers and wants to fix this, yet they let the big dealers in Canada and Mexico sell stuff out the back door for less then places like Westcon, Techdata, etc are able to sell to legit resellers like myself. Until Nortel gets their distribution under control I have little concern for giving customers and technicians proper software to work on their systems with.
BTW, the software doesn't even come with a EULA or any kind of agreement for you to accept when installing it so I have no idea why curlycord would suggest it is only for Norstar reseller use. Certainly I have no agreement with Nortel that says I cant share this software with whomever I like.
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Personally, I think it is unethical to sell remote software for as much $$ as a small phone system costs. Nortel already has the worst black market problem in the telecom business by far. Our Nortel rep says Nortel cares about their resellers and wants to fix this, yet they let the big dealers in Canada and Mexico sell stuff out the back door for less then places like Westcon, Techdata, etc are able to sell to legit resellers like myself. Until Nortel gets their distribution under control I have little concern for giving customers and technicians proper software to work on their systems with.
BTW, the software doesn't even come with a EULA or any kind of agreement for you to accept when installing it so I have no idea why curlycord would suggest it is only for Norstar reseller use. Certainly I have no agreement with Nortel that says I cant share this software with whomever I like.
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curlycord
Programmer
Well as it turns out I am wrong....even though it is a manual website it does have NRU but fails to mention that it is software and not a manual.
There are many things in life that are unethical but when they have rules they should be followed in order to protect yourself.
It's unfortunate that you have little concern for giving customers and others the software as it is piracy and should not be discussed on this board as in rule #4.
You mention that the software does not come with an agreement of any kind which is a false statement on your behalf. You accepted the terms and agreement as stated below as soon as you downloaded any software from the Nortel website.
PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING LICENSE TERMS CAREFULLY. YOU MUST ACCEPT THESE LICENSE TERMS IN ORDER TO DOWNLOAD AND USE THE SOFTWARE. YOUR DOWNLOADING AND USE OF THE SOFTWARE CONSTITUTES YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT AS SET FORTH IN THE NORTEL NETWORKS COPYRIGHT NOTICE AND TERMS OF USE.
The Software is licensed not sold. Nortel Networks grants you a license for the Software only in the country where you acquired the Software. You obtain no rights other than those granted you under this license. Nortel Networks owns or has licensed from the owner copyrights in the Software. You are responsible for the selection of the Software and for the installation of, use of, and results obtained from, the Software.
1. License
Nortel Networks grants you a nonexclusive license to use Software on only one machine at any one time or to the extent of the activation or authorized usage level; whichever is applicable. To the extent Software is furnished for use with designated Hardware, you are granted a nonexclusive license to use Software only on such Hardware. Software contains trade secrets and you agree to treat Software as confidential information. you will ensure that anyone who uses the Software does so only in compliance with the terms of this Agreement. you shall not a) use, copy, modify, transfer or distribute the Software except as expressly authorized; b) reverse assemble, reverse compile, reverse engineer or otherwise translate the Software; c) create derivative works or modifications unless expressly authorized; or d) sublicense, rent or lease the Software. Licensors of intellectual property to Nortel Networks are beneficiaries of this provision. Upon termination of the license for any reason, you will promptly return the Software to Nortel Networks or certify its destruction. Nortel Networks may audit by remote polling or other reasonable means to determine Software activation or usage levels.
2. Warranty
The Software is provided "AS IS" without any warranties (conditions) of any kind. NORTEL NETWORKS DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES (CONDITIONS) FOR THE SOFTWARE, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND ANY WARRANTY OF NON-INFRINGEMENT. Nortel Networks is not obligated to provide support of any kind for the Software. Some jurisdictions do not allow exclusion of implied warranties, so the above exclusions may not apply to you.
3. Limitation of Remedies
In no event will Nortel Networks or any of its suppliers or agents be liable for any direct, special, incidental, punitive, indirect or consequential damages, lost profits or lost savings, and whether in contract, tort or otherwise (including negligence), arising out of your use of the Software, even if Nortel Networks or its suppliers have been advised of the possibility of such damages. In addition, Nortel Networks will not be liable for any damages claimed by you based on any third-party claim.
The above limitations of remedies also apply to any developer and/or supplier of the Software. Such developer and/or supplier is an intended beneficiary of this Section.
Some jurisdictions do not allow these limitations or exclusions, so they may not apply to you.
4. General
You may terminate your license at any time. Nortel Networks may terminate your license if you fail to comply with the terms and conditions of this license. In either event, you must either return the Software or certify its destruction.
You are responsible for payment of any taxes, including personal property taxes, resulting from your use of the Software.
Neither party may bring an action, regardless of form, more than two years after the cause of the action arose.
If you acquire the Software in the United States, this license is governed by the laws of the State of New York. If you acquired the Software in Canada, this license is governed by the laws of the Province of Ontario. Otherwise, this license is governed by the laws of the country in which you acquired the Software.
Copyright/Disclaimer | Privacy Statement
Copyright © Nortel Networks Limited 2003. All Rights Reserved.
There are many things in life that are unethical but when they have rules they should be followed in order to protect yourself.
It's unfortunate that you have little concern for giving customers and others the software as it is piracy and should not be discussed on this board as in rule #4.
You mention that the software does not come with an agreement of any kind which is a false statement on your behalf. You accepted the terms and agreement as stated below as soon as you downloaded any software from the Nortel website.
PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING LICENSE TERMS CAREFULLY. YOU MUST ACCEPT THESE LICENSE TERMS IN ORDER TO DOWNLOAD AND USE THE SOFTWARE. YOUR DOWNLOADING AND USE OF THE SOFTWARE CONSTITUTES YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT AS SET FORTH IN THE NORTEL NETWORKS COPYRIGHT NOTICE AND TERMS OF USE.
The Software is licensed not sold. Nortel Networks grants you a license for the Software only in the country where you acquired the Software. You obtain no rights other than those granted you under this license. Nortel Networks owns or has licensed from the owner copyrights in the Software. You are responsible for the selection of the Software and for the installation of, use of, and results obtained from, the Software.
1. License
Nortel Networks grants you a nonexclusive license to use Software on only one machine at any one time or to the extent of the activation or authorized usage level; whichever is applicable. To the extent Software is furnished for use with designated Hardware, you are granted a nonexclusive license to use Software only on such Hardware. Software contains trade secrets and you agree to treat Software as confidential information. you will ensure that anyone who uses the Software does so only in compliance with the terms of this Agreement. you shall not a) use, copy, modify, transfer or distribute the Software except as expressly authorized; b) reverse assemble, reverse compile, reverse engineer or otherwise translate the Software; c) create derivative works or modifications unless expressly authorized; or d) sublicense, rent or lease the Software. Licensors of intellectual property to Nortel Networks are beneficiaries of this provision. Upon termination of the license for any reason, you will promptly return the Software to Nortel Networks or certify its destruction. Nortel Networks may audit by remote polling or other reasonable means to determine Software activation or usage levels.
2. Warranty
The Software is provided "AS IS" without any warranties (conditions) of any kind. NORTEL NETWORKS DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES (CONDITIONS) FOR THE SOFTWARE, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND ANY WARRANTY OF NON-INFRINGEMENT. Nortel Networks is not obligated to provide support of any kind for the Software. Some jurisdictions do not allow exclusion of implied warranties, so the above exclusions may not apply to you.
3. Limitation of Remedies
In no event will Nortel Networks or any of its suppliers or agents be liable for any direct, special, incidental, punitive, indirect or consequential damages, lost profits or lost savings, and whether in contract, tort or otherwise (including negligence), arising out of your use of the Software, even if Nortel Networks or its suppliers have been advised of the possibility of such damages. In addition, Nortel Networks will not be liable for any damages claimed by you based on any third-party claim.
The above limitations of remedies also apply to any developer and/or supplier of the Software. Such developer and/or supplier is an intended beneficiary of this Section.
Some jurisdictions do not allow these limitations or exclusions, so they may not apply to you.
4. General
You may terminate your license at any time. Nortel Networks may terminate your license if you fail to comply with the terms and conditions of this license. In either event, you must either return the Software or certify its destruction.
You are responsible for payment of any taxes, including personal property taxes, resulting from your use of the Software.
Neither party may bring an action, regardless of form, more than two years after the cause of the action arose.
If you acquire the Software in the United States, this license is governed by the laws of the State of New York. If you acquired the Software in Canada, this license is governed by the laws of the Province of Ontario. Otherwise, this license is governed by the laws of the country in which you acquired the Software.
Copyright/Disclaimer | Privacy Statement
Copyright © Nortel Networks Limited 2003. All Rights Reserved.
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