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Iago77

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Jun 9, 2003
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Hello,

I've got 6.1.3 version but the system doensn't recycles at the specified data and I must do it manually.

Does anybody knows about this bug?

Many thanks in advance,

Iago
 
What is your browse policy and retention policy?

Do you use full and incr backups?

You must have in mind that the full backup is not
recyclable until the last incr backup has reach his retention policy.
 
I've not seen this behaviour.
Are you sure you have no tapes left (in the correct pool) with free space? If you do, these would be used first.
 
An other parameter to check:
Do you have "Auto Media Management"=yes
on your Autochanger\Preferences tab ?
 
Thanks for your fast answers...

>> Do you have "Auto Media Management"=yes
on your Autochanger\Preferences tab ?

Yes, I've checked and it's ok

>> Browse/retention policy

I've got clients with full backups and I've other groups which incremental backup. For example, in Exchange group, it always does full backup and the volumes aren't recycled automatically.

Thanks in advance again...
 
Please run this command:

mminfo -q client=xxxx -r volume,savetime,level,ssbrowse,ssretent,ssflags -ot

and send us the output;
I hope you will understand what is wrong...
 
Here you are:

# more log.log
volume date lvl browse retent ssflags
volume date lvl browse retent ssflags
000078 15/06/03 incr 16/07/03 16/07/03 vrEF
000023 15/06/03 incr 16/07/03 16/07/03 vrEF
000084 17/06/03 full 18/07/03 18/07/03 vrEF
000083 17/06/03 incr 18/07/03 18/07/03 vEF
000083 17/06/03 full 18/07/03 18/07/03 vrEF
000085 17/06/03 incr 18/07/03 18/07/03 vEF
000084 17/06/03 incr 18/07/03 18/07/03 vEF
000085 18/06/03 full 19/07/03 19/07/03 vrEF
000084 18/06/03 incr 19/07/03 19/07/03 vEF
000084 18/06/03 full 19/07/03 19/07/03 vrEF
000084 18/06/03 incr 19/07/03 19/07/03 vEF
000085 18/06/03 incr 19/07/03 19/07/03 vEF
000089 21/06/03 full 22/07/03 22/07/03 vF
000027 21/06/03 incr 22/07/03 22/07/03 vF
000027 21/06/03 full 22/07/03 22/07/03 vF
000089 21/06/03 incr 22/07/03 22/07/03 vF
000091 21/06/03 incr 22/07/03 22/07/03 vF
000089 21/06/03 incr 22/07/03 22/07/03 vF
000027 21/06/03 incr 22/07/03 22/07/03 vF
000090 22/06/03 incr 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000090 22/06/03 full 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000090 22/06/03 full 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000092 22/06/03 incr 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000090 22/06/03 incr 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000090 22/06/03 incr 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000092 22/06/03 full 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000092 22/06/03 full 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000092 22/06/03 full 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000090 22/06/03 full 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000092 22/06/03 full 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000094 22/06/03 full 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000096 22/06/03 full 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000091 22/06/03 full 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000092 22/06/03 full 23/07/03 23/07/03 vF
000097 24/06/03 incr 25/07/03 25/07/03 vrEiF
000097 24/06/03 incr 25/07/03 25/07/03 vF
000097 24/06/03 incr 25/07/03 25/07/03 vF
000034 24/06/03 full 25/07/03 25/07/03 vF
000034 24/06/03 full 25/07/03 25/07/03 vF
000029 24/06/03 incr 25/07/03 25/07/03 vrEiF
000029 24/06/03 incr 25/07/03 25/07/03 vF
000096 25/06/03 full 26/07/03 26/07/03 vF
000096 25/06/03 full 26/07/03 26/07/03 vF
000096 25/06/03 incr 26/07/03 26/07/03 vF
000096 25/06/03 full 26/07/03 26/07/03 vF
000029 25/06/03 incr 26/07/03 26/07/03 vF
000034 25/06/03 incr 26/07/03 26/07/03 vF
000096 25/06/03 incr 26/07/03 26/07/03 vF
000034 25/06/03 incr 26/07/03 26/07/03 vF
000096 25/06/03 incr 26/07/03 26/07/03 vF
000096 25/06/03 incr 26/07/03 26/07/03 vF
000037 26/06/03 full 27/07/03 27/07/03 vF
000037 26/06/03 incr 27/07/03 27/07/03 vF
000037 26/06/03 full 27/07/03 27/07/03 vF
000037 26/06/03 incr 27/07/03 27/07/03 vF
000040 26/06/03 incr 27/07/03 27/07/03 vF
000037 26/06/03 incr 27/07/03 27/07/03 vF
000037 26/06/03 incr 27/07/03 27/07/03 vF
000002 27/06/03 full 28/07/03 28/07/03 vF
000037 27/06/03 full 28/07/03 28/07/03 vF
000037 27/06/03 incr 28/07/03 28/07/03 vF
000002 27/06/03 incr 28/07/03 28/07/03 vF
000037 27/06/03 incr 28/07/03 28/07/03 vF
000046 27/06/03 incr 28/07/03 28/07/03 vF
000037 27/06/03 incr 28/07/03 28/07/03 vF
000046 27/06/03 incr 28/07/03 28/07/03 vF
000037 27/06/03 incr 28/07/03 28/07/03 vF
000002 28/06/03 incr 29/07/03 29/07/03 vF
000066 28/06/03 full 29/07/03 29/07/03 vF
000066 28/06/03 full 29/07/03 29/07/03 vF
000068 28/06/03 incr 29/07/03 29/07/03 vF
000002 28/06/03 incr 29/07/03 29/07/03 vF
000066 28/06/03 incr 29/07/03 29/07/03 vF
000068 29/06/03 full 30/07/03 30/07/03 vF
000066 29/06/03 full 30/07/03 30/07/03 vF
000066 29/06/03 incr 30/07/03 30/07/03 vF
000049 29/06/03 incr 30/07/03 30/07/03 vF
000066 29/06/03 incr 30/07/03 30/07/03 vF
000068 29/06/03 incr 30/07/03 30/07/03 vF
000070 29/06/03 incr 30/07/03 30/07/03 vF
000066 29/06/03 incr 30/07/03 30/07/03 vF
000070 29/06/03 full 30/07/03 30/07/03 vF
000011 29/06/03 full 30/07/03 30/07/03 vF
000051 29/06/03 full 30/07/03 30/07/03 vF
000070 29/06/03 full 30/07/03 30/07/03 vF
000049 30/06/03 full 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000049 30/06/03 full 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000049 30/06/03 full 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000049 30/06/03 full 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000049 30/06/03 full 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000011 01/07/03 full 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000011 01/07/03 full 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000011 01/07/03 incr 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000011 01/07/03 incr 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000054 01/07/03 incr 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000053 01/07/03 incr 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000011 01/07/03 incr 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000057 01/07/03 full 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000057 01/07/03 full 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000057 01/07/03 incr 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000057 01/07/03 incr 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000099 01/07/03 incr 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000057 01/07/03 incr 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000071 01/07/03 incr 31/07/03 31/07/03 vF
000099 02/07/03 incr 01/08/03 01/08/03 vF
000099 02/07/03 full 01/08/03 01/08/03 vF
000099 02/07/03 full 01/08/03 01/08/03 vF
000071 02/07/03 incr 01/08/03 01/08/03 vF
000103 02/07/03 incr 01/08/03 01/08/03 vF
000071 02/07/03 incr 01/08/03 01/08/03 vF
000071 02/07/03 incr 01/08/03 01/08/03 vF
000103 03/07/03 full 02/08/03 02/08/03 vF
000103 03/07/03 full 02/08/03 02/08/03 vF
000103 03/07/03 incr 02/08/03 02/08/03 vF
000100 03/07/03 incr 02/08/03 02/08/03 vF
000102 03/07/03 incr 02/08/03 02/08/03 vF
000103 03/07/03 incr 02/08/03 02/08/03 vF
000103 03/07/03 incr 02/08/03 02/08/03 vF
000101 04/07/03 full 03/08/03 03/08/03 vF
000101 04/07/03 full 03/08/03 03/08/03 vF
000101 04/07/03 incr 03/08/03 03/08/03 vF
000100 04/07/03 incr 03/08/03 03/08/03 vF
000100 04/07/03 incr 03/08/03 03/08/03 vF
000103 04/07/03 incr 03/08/03 03/08/03 vF
000100 05/07/03 incr 04/08/03 04/08/03 vF
000108 05/07/03 full 04/08/03 04/08/03 vF
000108 05/07/03 full 04/08/03 04/08/03 vF
000107 05/07/03 incr 04/08/03 04/08/03 vF
000107 05/07/03 incr 04/08/03 04/08/03 vF
000108 05/07/03 incr 04/08/03 04/08/03 vF
000108 06/07/03 full 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000108 06/07/03 full 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000108 06/07/03 full 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000107 06/07/03 full 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000105 06/07/03 full 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000108 06/07/03 full 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000113 06/07/03 full 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000114 06/07/03 full 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000108 06/07/03 full 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000106 06/07/03 full 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000106 06/07/03 full 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000106 06/07/03 full 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000106 06/07/03 incr 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000112 06/07/03 incr 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000112 06/07/03 incr 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000106 06/07/03 incr 05/08/03 05/08/03 vF
000111 07/07/03 full 06/08/03 06/08/03 vF
000112 07/07/03 incr 06/08/03 06/08/03 vF
000112 07/07/03 full 06/08/03 06/08/03 vF
000110 07/07/03 incr 06/08/03 06/08/03 vF
000111 07/07/03 incr 06/08/03 06/08/03 vF
000111 07/07/03 incr 06/08/03 06/08/03 vF
000111 07/07/03 incr 06/08/03 06/08/03 vF
000110 08/07/03 full 07/08/03 07/08/03 vF
000119 08/07/03 full 07/08/03 07/08/03 vF
000119 08/07/03 incr 07/08/03 07/08/03 vF
000119 08/07/03 incr 07/08/03 07/08/03 vF
000119 08/07/03 incr 07/08/03 07/08/03 vF
000112 08/07/03 incr 07/08/03 07/08/03 vF
000118 09/07/03 full 08/08/03 08/08/03 vF
000118 09/07/03 full 08/08/03 08/08/03 vF
000118 09/07/03 incr 08/08/03 08/08/03 vF
000117 09/07/03 incr 08/08/03 08/08/03 vF
000110 09/07/03 incr 08/08/03 08/08/03 vF
000118 09/07/03 incr 08/08/03 08/08/03 vF
000117 10/07/03 full 09/08/03 09/08/03 vF
000117 10/07/03 full 09/08/03 09/08/03 vF
000118 10/07/03 incr 09/08/03 09/08/03 vF
000016 10/07/03 incr 09/08/03 09/08/03 vF
000058 10/07/03 incr 09/08/03 09/08/03 vF
000117 10/07/03 incr 09/08/03 09/08/03 vF
000118 10/07/03 incr 09/08/03 09/08/03 vF
000118 10/07/03 incr 09/08/03 09/08/03 vF
000117 10/07/03 incr 09/08/03 09/08/03 vF
000016 11/07/03 full 10/08/03 10/08/03 vF
000016 11/07/03 full 10/08/03 10/08/03 vF
000016 11/07/03 incr 10/08/03 10/08/03 vF
000115 11/07/03 incr 10/08/03 10/08/03 vF
000123 11/07/03 incr 10/08/03 10/08/03 vF
000016 11/07/03 incr 10/08/03 10/08/03 vF
000123 12/07/03 full 11/08/03 11/08/03 vF
000123 12/07/03 full 11/08/03 11/08/03 vF
000016 12/07/03 incr 11/08/03 11/08/03 vF
000120 12/07/03 incr 11/08/03 11/08/03 vF
000123 12/07/03 incr 11/08/03 11/08/03 vF
000123 12/07/03 incr 11/08/03 11/08/03 vF
000123 13/07/03 full 12/08/03 12/08/03 vF
000123 13/07/03 full 12/08/03 12/08/03 vF
000016 13/07/03 full 12/08/03 12/08/03 vF
000016 13/07/03 full 12/08/03 12/08/03 vF
000120 13/07/03 full 12/08/03 12/08/03 vF
000122 13/07/03 full 12/08/03 12/08/03 vF
000123 13/07/03 full 12/08/03 12/08/03 vF
000125 13/07/03 full 12/08/03 12/08/03 vF
000123 13/07/03 full 12/08/03 12/08/03 vF
000120 13/07/03 full 12/08/03 12/08/03 vF
000126 14/07/03 full 13/08/03 13/08/03 vF
000126 14/07/03 full 13/08/03 13/08/03 vF
000126 14/07/03 incr 13/08/03 13/08/03 vF
000062 14/07/03 incr 13/08/03 13/08/03 vF
000126 14/07/03 incr 13/08/03 13/08/03 vF
000062 14/07/03 incr 13/08/03 13/08/03 vF
000062 14/07/03 incr 13/08/03 13/08/03 vF
000063 15/07/03 full 14/08/03 14/08/03 vF
000060 15/07/03 full 14/08/03 14/08/03 vF
000060 15/07/03 incr 14/08/03 14/08/03 vF
000060 15/07/03 incr 14/08/03 14/08/03 vF
000064 15/07/03 incr 14/08/03 14/08/03 vF
000063 15/07/03 incr 14/08/03 14/08/03 vF
000063 15/07/03 incr 14/08/03 14/08/03 vF
000063 16/07/03 full 15/08/03 15/08/03 vF
000060 16/07/03 incr 15/08/03 15/08/03 vF
000060 16/07/03 full 15/08/03 15/08/03 vF
000003 16/07/03 incr 15/08/03 15/08/03 vF
000060 16/07/03 incr 15/08/03 15/08/03 vF
000063 16/07/03 incr 15/08/03 15/08/03 vF
000060 16/07/03 incr 15/08/03 15/08/03 vF
000060 16/07/03 incr 15/08/03 15/08/03 vF
000072 17/07/03 incr 16/08/03 16/08/03 vF
000072 17/07/03 full 16/08/03 16/08/03 vF
000072 17/07/03 full 16/08/03 16/08/03 vF
000074 17/07/03 incr 16/08/03 16/08/03 vF
000074 17/07/03 incr 16/08/03 16/08/03 vF
000019 17/07/03 incr 16/08/03 16/08/03 vF
000019 18/07/03 incr 17/08/03 17/08/03 vF
000019 18/07/03 full 17/08/03 17/08/03 vF
000072 18/07/03 full 17/08/03 17/08/03 vF
000019 18/07/03 incr 17/08/03 17/08/03 vF
000072 18/07/03 incr 17/08/03 17/08/03 vF
000075 18/07/03 incr 17/08/03 17/08/03 vF
000019 18/07/03 incr 17/08/03 17/08/03 vF
000019 18/07/03 incr 17/08/03 17/08/03 vF
000075 18/07/03 incr 17/08/03 17/08/03 vF
000072 19/07/03 incr 18/08/03 18/08/03 vF
000072 19/07/03 full 18/08/03 18/08/03 vF
000073 19/07/03 full 18/08/03 18/08/03 vF
000077 19/07/03 incr 18/08/03 18/08/03 vF
000073 19/07/03 incr 18/08/03 18/08/03 vF
000073 19/07/03 incr 18/08/03 18/08/03 vF
000072 20/07/03 full 19/08/03 19/08/03 vF
000072 20/07/03 full 19/08/03 19/08/03 vF
000072 20/07/03 full 19/08/03 19/08/03 vF
000072 20/07/03 full 19/08/03 19/08/03 vF
000072 20/07/03 full 19/08/03 19/08/03 viI
000086 20/07/03 full 19/08/03 19/08/03 viI
000072 20/07/03 full 19/08/03 19/08/03 vF
000072 20/07/03 full 19/08/03 19/08/03 vF
000086 20/07/03 full 19/08/03 19/08/03 vF

I hope this will be a piece of help

Thanks again!
 
I think speculos has given the most beneficial hint:

A save set will become recyclable if no dependencies exist
any longer. This is why Legato also knows the term "Backup Cycle", which defines the interval between two fulls.
The result: If you specify the retention policy for n
backup cycles, the save sets will not become recyclable
before all save sets of this backup cycle lost their
dependencies, which is true after n+1 backup cycles. This
makes total sense.

n would only become true if you do not run anything else
but full backups.

2. Of course you must ensure that all backups on a media
have the same or close retention policies. One save set
could block the whole media from becoming recyclable. This
is the technical reason why you want to send such backups
to another pool.

3. Even if all save sets on a media are recyclable (which
set the volume status to "recyclable" as well), NW will not
relabel the media right away (in advance). For maximum recover possibility, he must be in need of a media.

4. According to the manual pages, Auto Media Managment (with
respect to labeling) is only responsible on new (blank) tapes. So it would not matter in this case.

 
The browsing/retention policy is monthly. So the problem is several save set are stored in the same volume but with different dates, that's the hint.

I've written in another job on monday mornings: to recycle volumes manually.

I'm pleased to be helped with your knowing.

Many thanks from Spain!
 
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