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Quantum leap in data storage?
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Cool. I want one.
Jeff
I haven't lost my mind - I know it's backed up on tape somewhere ....
Jeff
I haven't lost my mind - I know it's backed up on tape somewhere ....
I don't understand. Isn't Quantum a very very very small unit of measurement? An Ant could make a quantum leap.
As to the actual Item, it's just using layering like DVDs. So it's proven tech. However, it looks like they're just sitting there on it hoping someone will come along and buy them and start producing the disks. They make sure to point out all the patents they own on this.
Add this item to all the other vaporware.
As to the actual Item, it's just using layering like DVDs. So it's proven tech. However, it looks like they're just sitting there on it hoping someone will come along and buy them and start producing the disks. They make sure to point out all the patents they own on this.
Add this item to all the other vaporware.
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SpiritOfLennon
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quantum leap
n.
An abrupt change or step, especially in method, information, or knowledge: “War was going to take a quantum leap; it would never be the same” (Garry Wills).
The technology used uses fluorescence technology, with instantaneous access to all layers. DVD's are only dual layered with only one layer accessed at once. If you read the site further it claims up to 1 Terabyte of data is possible on a CD size disk.
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Re: Quantum Leap....... Quantum physics is based on the assumption that every change that occurs, does so in steps rather than a continuous manner. A quantum leap would originally have been the smallest change that could be recognised as such, used sarcastically in connection with a useless development. But the general public being what they are, adopted the saying, mistakenly assuming because of the cool-sounding phrase, that it meant a massive leap forwards. Wrong!!! Unfortunately, due to continued public mis-use, the saying is now accepted as meaning just that.
Anyway, interesting storage medium is that! I'm still waiting for the first truly solid state large capacity storage though. Excellent as the new medium is, it still relies on a spinning disc. We really need to move away from that and develop true 3-D storage, where there are no moving parts apart from maybe a scanning laser if 3-D crystal storage is used. Exciting isn't it? :-D My suggestions are what I would try myself. If incorrect, I welcome corrections to my rather limited knowledge. Andy.
Anyway, interesting storage medium is that! I'm still waiting for the first truly solid state large capacity storage though. Excellent as the new medium is, it still relies on a spinning disc. We really need to move away from that and develop true 3-D storage, where there are no moving parts apart from maybe a scanning laser if 3-D crystal storage is used. Exciting isn't it? :-D My suggestions are what I would try myself. If incorrect, I welcome corrections to my rather limited knowledge. Andy.
last I heard 3d cude have porblems like: after the sixth or so layer they have problems wrighting and making a 3d odject which is pure so once you get past the layer limt there is something to wright on what does seem to work is read is not all that hard to compared to writhing the data gunthnp
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Anyone remember the old magnetic memory cores? No, neither do I. But if something similar but in 3D could be constructed, where instead of wire, the electrons could be channelled through molecular guides, and insted of ferrite rings, utilise some sort of electrostatically controlled crystal morphing? At these sort of dimensions, the memory capacity per cubic centimetre would be extremely high, with no real practical limit on how large the array could be built. My suggestions are what I would try myself. If incorrect, I welcome corrections to my rather limited knowledge. Andy.
Er, what's the difference between a wire and a "Molecular Guide"?
Crystal morphing? So, each spot would change shape, and it's a 3-d environment? You'll have to build a support structure and ensure there is enough room for each of these crystals to change shape.
You'll probably want to vacuum seal it.
Why do you think this will be smaller?
Crystal morphing? So, each spot would change shape, and it's a 3-d environment? You'll have to build a support structure and ensure there is enough room for each of these crystals to change shape.
You'll probably want to vacuum seal it.
Why do you think this will be smaller?
Perhaps morphing was the wrong word - I was referring to any change which could be subsequently read back. Small, and/or high capacity units could be built, simply because each crystal need only be a few molecules in size. As for the 'guides', maybe there's an as yet undiscovered way to pass free electrons along a channel created within a certain atomic structure? How do the electrons propagate within superconducting material for example? Perhaps by the scientists applying apparently unrelated discoveries to the memory storage problem, we'll slowly move away from 'ye olde rotating disk'. My suggestions are what I would try myself. If incorrect, I welcome corrections to my rather limited knowledge. Andy.
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Kubilis1 hit it. Just use a laser to write all your data onto Scott Bakula. He's only about 45 so he should have a good 20 years left in him.
Jeff
I haven't lost my mind - I know it's backed up on tape somewhere ....
Jeff
I haven't lost my mind - I know it's backed up on tape somewhere ....
A case of designed-in failure I suspect. When you consider that magnetic bearings are available, and there is no head contact - at least not when reading or writing - these drives should last for decades as long as they're not subject to abuse or faulty. They don't of course. My suggestions are what I would try myself. If incorrect, I welcome corrections to my rather limited knowledge. Andy.
I don't know how much data can Scott Bakula
if you have moving parts it will fail I think what they have done with hards is great but it moves(so does Scott Bakula and will all that time travle mess with my data) so we need is high capacity soild state device or bio computing which few talk about anymore got to love how much data DNA holds. gunthnp
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if you have moving parts it will fail I think what they have done with hards is great but it moves(so does Scott Bakula and will all that time travle mess with my data) so we need is high capacity soild state device or bio computing which few talk about anymore got to love how much data DNA holds. gunthnp
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With the right laser you could write a lot of data on him, but you're right. Now that he's flying around on the Enterprise your data might not always be available.
Jeff
I haven't lost my mind - I know it's backed up on tape somewhere ....
Jeff
I haven't lost my mind - I know it's backed up on tape somewhere ....
some things just dont change - well as fast as we think.
Well look at a computer today and say 5 years ago. We still have all the same components and now some more but the basic bits are the same. ok they are bigger and faster and so there has been progress - but its slo
A big change - haha - can u imagine it, I guess if you come back in say 20 years things will have changed. But in 5 nope, they will just be faster and bigger than today !!
I still cant talk properly to my computer and its still not as intelligent as the bloody wife - lol - now that would be progress for the better !!
Well look at a computer today and say 5 years ago. We still have all the same components and now some more but the basic bits are the same. ok they are bigger and faster and so there has been progress - but its slo
A big change - haha - can u imagine it, I guess if you come back in say 20 years things will have changed. But in 5 nope, they will just be faster and bigger than today !!
I still cant talk properly to my computer and its still not as intelligent as the bloody wife - lol - now that would be progress for the better !!
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This talk of more hard disk space is a joke. We are moving back to dumb terminals with the internet and Win 2000's ability to control our desktops at work.
PT,
I think that disk space is like cars--we will always want more/better/faster. They've talked about public transportation and 'automatic highways' that drive your car for you, but Americans at least, love to have their own car, even if they take the bus or train to work every day.
I see the parallel being the NC (the harddisk-less 'network-computer', for those who may have easily forgotten this utter failure). Yes, the NC seemed like a good idea, as does the highway that drives your car for you or the bus that takes you to work. But I want my own disk space, and lots of it--I don't want to have to depend on the network to be up to do my work, listen to an mp3, look at streaming vidieo from my digital camera, etc, etc. I will never succumb to forfeiting my own personal space for Big Brother's Win2000 machine or some Central Piece of Big Iron (the Central Scrutinizer!). People want their stuff and they want it right next to them. But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
--Jim
I think that disk space is like cars--we will always want more/better/faster. They've talked about public transportation and 'automatic highways' that drive your car for you, but Americans at least, love to have their own car, even if they take the bus or train to work every day.
I see the parallel being the NC (the harddisk-less 'network-computer', for those who may have easily forgotten this utter failure). Yes, the NC seemed like a good idea, as does the highway that drives your car for you or the bus that takes you to work. But I want my own disk space, and lots of it--I don't want to have to depend on the network to be up to do my work, listen to an mp3, look at streaming vidieo from my digital camera, etc, etc. I will never succumb to forfeiting my own personal space for Big Brother's Win2000 machine or some Central Piece of Big Iron (the Central Scrutinizer!). People want their stuff and they want it right next to them. But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
--Jim
I agree with Jim a lot of people like the idea of a dumb treminal but way back then we learned that this is not the best way of doing things come on in a dumb machine speed is as fast as the line and thats fine for somthing but it has it limts
and the fact is as long desktop machine follow moores law we will want small kits big iron only look good for big jobs and it cost stay to high to think that many home user would get a terminal and keep all there stuff one someelse iron all the time gunthnp
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and the fact is as long desktop machine follow moores law we will want small kits big iron only look good for big jobs and it cost stay to high to think that many home user would get a terminal and keep all there stuff one someelse iron all the time gunthnp
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