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qsig nortel to cisco, rolm, simmons, mitel 2

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johnpoole

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REQ: prt
TYPE: rdb
CUST 0
ROUT 100
Code: 
TYPE RDB
CUST 00
ROUT 100
DES  CISCO LOCAL
TKTP TIE
NPID_TBL_NUM   0
ESN  NO
CNVT NO
SAT  NO
RCLS EXT
VTRK NO
DTRK YES
BRIP NO
DGTP PRI
ISDN YES
    MODE PRA
    IFC  ISGF
    SBN  NO
    PNI  00000
    NCNA NO
    NCRD NO
    CHTY BCH
    CTYP UKWN
    INAC NO
    ISAR NO
    CPFXS YES
    DAPC NO
    INTC NO
DSEL VOD
PTYP PRI
AUTO NO
DNIS NO
DCDR NO
ICOG IAO
SRCH RRB
TRMB YES
STEP
ACOD 8760
TCPP NO
TARG
CLEN 1
BILN NO
OABS
INST
IDC  NO
DCNO 0 *
NDNO 0
DEXT NO
ANTK
SIGO STD
ICIS YES
TIMR ICF  512
     OGF  512
     EOD  13952
     NRD  10112
     DDL  70
     ODT  4096
     RGV  640
     GRD  896
     SFB  3
     NBS  2048
     NBL  4096
     IENB  5
     TFD  0
     VSS  0
     VGD  6
DRNG NO
CDR  NO
VRAT NO
MUS  YES
MRT  10
RACD NO
FRL  0 0
FRL  1 0
FRL  2 0
FRL  3 0
FRL  4 0
FRL  5 0
FRL  6 0
FRL  7 0
OHQ  NO
OHQT 00
CBQ  NO
AUTH NO
TDET NO
TTBL 0
ATAN NO
PLEV 2
ALRM NO
ART  0
SGRP 0
AACR NO
Trunk:

Code: 
DES  CISCO LOCAL
TN   100 01
TYPE TIE
CDEN SD
CUST 0
TRK  PRI
PDCA 1
PCML MU
NCOS 1
RTMB 100 1
B-CHANNEL SIGNALING
TGAR 1
AST  NO
IAPG 0
CLS  CTD DTN WTA LPR APN THFD HKD
     P10 VNL
TKID
FCAR NO
DATE 24 FEB 2005
Dch:
Code: 
ADAN     DCH 100
  CTYP MSDL
  GRP  0
  DNUM 13
  PORT 0
  DES  Cisco
  USR  PRI
  DCHL 0
  OTBF 32
  PARM RS422  DTE
  DRAT 64KC
  CLOK EXT
  IFC  ISGF
    PINX_CUST 0
    ISDN_MCNT 300
  CLID OPT0
  CO_TYPE  STD
  SIDE USR
  CNEG 1
  RLS  ID  **
  [bold]RCAP COLP NDI CCBI CCNI PRI DV3I CTI  QMWI [/bold]
  PR_TRIGS DIV 2 3
           CNG 2 3
  PR_RTN NO
  MBGA NO
  OVLR YES
  DIDD 0
  OVLS NO
  T310 120
  T200 3
  T203 10
  N200 3
  N201 260
  K    7

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc
 
is This setting resolved your preview post above Cisco Rcap for MMI with a Call Manager???

Javier
 
yep, the qmwi added msg lamps

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc
 
john,

I have a question about MWI lamps. Which side was voice mail on to light MWI lamps?



-Bunkman
 
what pkg is it that teh Nortel needs to suppoirt Qsig? Think I tried it once but couldnt do it on 25.40 because a pkg was missing

so i been doing DMS to S100 and i get most features anyway, but I think Q-sig gives you even more
 
don't know the package number, but they are correct. most switches don;t have. after succession 3.0 it is standard.

John
 
with qsig, it's a full intergration. when my users dial the cisco wireless. or soft phones, names msg lamps clid and ext calling all work the same as nortel sta to sta.

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc
 
this is a qsig setup i just installed between a cisco call manager and my 81, i used it to add a pri back to the avaya, and it's came up clean and complete.. you may not need all the rcap's at your site. depending on the app

Route:


REQ: prt
TYPE: rdb
CUST 0
ROUT 100

Code: 
TYPE RDB
CUST 00
ROUT 100
DES  CISCO LOCAL
TKTP TIE
NPID_TBL_NUM   0
ESN  NO
CNVT NO
SAT  NO
RCLS EXT
VTRK NO
DTRK YES
BRIP NO
DGTP PRI
ISDN YES
    MODE PRA
    IFC  ISGF
    SBN  NO
    PNI  00000
    NCNA NO
    NCRD NO
    CHTY BCH
    CTYP UKWN
    INAC NO
    ISAR NO
    CPFXS YES
    DAPC NO
    INTC NO
DSEL VOD
PTYP PRI
AUTO NO
DNIS NO
DCDR NO
ICOG IAO
SRCH RRB
TRMB YES
STEP
ACOD 8760
TCPP NO
TARG
CLEN 1
BILN NO
OABS
INST
IDC  NO
DCNO 0 *
NDNO 0
DEXT NO
ANTK
SIGO STD
ICIS YES
TIMR ICF  512
     OGF  512
     EOD  13952
     NRD  10112
     DDL  70
     ODT  4096
     RGV  640
     GRD  896
     SFB  3
     NBS  2048
     NBL  4096
     IENB  5
     TFD  0
     VSS  0
     VGD  6
DRNG NO
CDR  NO
VRAT NO
MUS  YES
MRT  10
RACD NO
FRL  0 0
FRL  1 0
FRL  2 0
FRL  3 0
FRL  4 0
FRL  5 0
FRL  6 0
FRL  7 0
OHQ  NO
OHQT 00
CBQ  NO
AUTH NO
TDET NO
TTBL 0
ATAN NO
PLEV 2
ALRM NO
ART  0
SGRP 0
AACR NO
Trunk:


Code: 
DES  CISCO LOCAL
TN   100 01
TYPE TIE
CDEN SD
CUST 0
TRK  PRI
PDCA 1
PCML MU
NCOS 1
RTMB 100 1
B-CHANNEL SIGNALING
TGAR 1
AST  NO
IAPG 0
CLS  CTD DTN WTA LPR APN THFD HKD
     P10 VNL
TKID
FCAR NO
DATE 24 FEB 2005
Dch:
Code: 
ADAN     DCH 100
  CTYP MSDL
  GRP  0
  DNUM 13
  PORT 0
  DES  Cisco
  USR  PRI
  DCHL 0
  OTBF 32
  PARM RS422  DTE
  DRAT 64KC
  CLOK EXT
  IFC  ISGF
    PINX_CUST 0
    ISDN_MCNT 300
  CLID OPT0
  CO_TYPE  STD
  SIDE USR
  CNEG 1
  RLS  ID  **
  [bold]RCAP COLP NDI CCBI CCNI PRI DV3I CTI  QMWI [/bold]
  PR_TRIGS DIV 2 3
           CNG 2 3
  PR_RTN NO
  MBGA NO
  OVLR YES
  DIDD 0
  OVLS NO
  T310 120
  T200 3
  T203 10
  N200 3
  N201 260
  K    7

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc
 
Hi John,

Your configuration is vraisemblably good - excepted one point, if you use a pri to the avaya with protocol qsig you need take the signalling in the channel-D not the B-channel.
Tell me please the result.



Abdel-Tef GADDARI

Engineer Network and Transmission.
MSN:abdgad@hotmail.com
 
If I can add one thing; on the D-Channel, add the following if you have multiple sites:

Code: 
PR_TRIGS DIV 2 3
         CNG 2 3
         [b]CTR2 2 3[/b]

This will allow the Nortel to send a Path Replacement Request in the event a call is transferred from one site to another. Again, this would only be relevant if you have multiple Nortel sites going Q.SIG into multiple Cisco routers for VoIP trunk replacement.

Don't try to find this in the NTP's, because the documentation doesn't exist. If you want to read the Feature Doc, search for Document Release Note MSC-0603-021 within the Helmsman web site.

I would be happy to explain exactly what this does, if anyone is interested.

Scott M.
 
How is call manager? Worth learning?
 
srmega41
explain us about this information

Javier
 
Sure!!

Let's say you have three Option 11C's (A, B, and C)in three cities. Each one has a Q.SIG PRI connected to a Cisco router for VoIP trunks and 4 digit dialing across a healthy WAN.

Site A calls Site B and connects the call. B decides C is a better person for A's call and transfers the call to C. Without CTR2 configured in the D-Channel, none of the Nortel PBX's will make a Path Replacement Request. Without this, the call will be connected through the router (and Nortel PBX backplane) at Site B until the call is terminated.

The CTR2 says the secondary station (Site C) sends the Path Replacement Request. CTR1 is also an option, and that would state the Primary station (Site A), is to make the request. I put in CTR2 due to the fact the Nortel Release note document states CTR2 is the default, even though it isn't.

This is similar to Trunk Route Optimization - Call Modification (TRO-CM) in an all Nortel environment, but using the Q.SIG standards.

There are two reasons this is important: Call Quality and bandwidth availablilty. For the call quality, if a Replacement Path is not established, the conversation between A and C is being encoded twice, once between A and B, and again between B and C. Anyone who has heard VoIP calls with multiple transcoding knows this can be an issue. From a bandwidth perspective, having B even involved in the call is unnecessary, not to mention two call paths (up to 160K, assuming G.711 codecs) is being used.

If you go a step further and imagine the call got transferred to another site, maybe a Site D, the problems only get worse.

Hopefully this helps. I have been working on this off and on for the last 5 years; looking for a solution for an 80 location network, all 11C's and 1 81C. Issues like this can make or break an implementation.

Hope this helps.

Scott M.
 
that's been a problem when going tdm to voip to tdm to voip to tdm. i would try to implement pure voip point to point if this is a major problem, i still perfer cisco ip (soft) or physical over nortel ip. since my site is so much smaller so is the probem your seeing. i will do a trace to make sure the 81 to ccm to 81 is working as programed. (better stated, as i thought i programed it).. the soft ccm to the avaya, routes voip ccm to ccm, which is clean, the 81 to ccm to avaya is clean but bandwidth (wan side) is single purpose and over sized.. thanks for the imput, i may have a few questions after i do some call tracing

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc
 
About QSIG integration, in this moment I am integrating Option 11C with GSM Nortel Switch (DMS 250). If this people want to use when one extension not answer the call and forward to cellular voice nail system, these previous post will working for implementong this feature ???????

Thanks for you help
 
you could use qsig, but the dms 250 has a intergrations package for sl1. this post is pointed for any type of system that needs intergration, if the cellular voice mail can support qsig, them that is the only way to go. the rule i use if in the interface type for my switch does not have a choice for the remote switch then we both talk qsig.. the 81 does not hav interface type cisco. cisco does not have protocol for meridian 81 c rls 4, but we both speak qsig, so that's our common point

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc
 
Can you use 1 Voice Mail with the different Systems using QSIG (ie: NORTEL & AVAYA)?
 
yes, it would not be a problem as long as the voice mail is intergrated with the local switch.. the local switch puts the qmwi on the d, which lights the lamp.. we have an avaya on the far end with mail. just trying to keep it simple, cisco phones on that campus use the voice mail on my campus, the call pilot required no special entry to see those phones

john poole
bellsouth business
columbia,sc
 
To bolster John's statement, we was in San Jose last week at Cisco's PBX Interoperability lab and saw this first hand. We had three Option 11's connected via Q.SIG to three Cisco routers. In addition we had Call Pilot and Unity connected to the systems. Names and MWI were passed between every location just fine, and Unity lit lamps on the Nortel sets, and Call Pilot lit the lamps on Nortel sets.

Pretty impressive testing.

Scott M.
 
Thanks this will be an Option 81C with Mer Mail & a Avaya at the far end. I just wanted to make sure that the Mer Mail would light the lights on the Avaya. Thanks agin I'll see what I can do. Does the 81 or mail require any special packages or will 263 (QSIG) do the trick by itself.
 
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