Problem Installing Old Adobe Programs on Win 8 1

[bsquared18]

Hello,

I've successfully installed Adobe Photoshop 6 and Illustrator 9 on two desktop computers, one running Windows 7 and the other Windows 8.

However, when I try to install them (via original discs) on a fairly new HP laptop running Windows 8 (which came with the laptop), the computer doesn't even recognize them. When I click the installation button on the screen, the disc drive runs for a few seconds and stops. Nothing is installed.

I tried stopping my Webroot protection program, but that didn't make a difference. I tried installing with the installation disc first in the computer's drive and then in an external drive. Still no go.

Any thoughts as to why installation isn't occurring or how to make it work?

BTW, I expect someone will be tempted to suggest that I upgrade to newer Adobe versions, but these programs serve my needs, and I'd like to keep using them as long as possible. And they are working on other computers with recent operating systems.

Thanks,
Bill

 

[goombawaho]

I would suggest that you test the functioning of the DVD drive by putting in other installation discs or DVDs and see if it can play those media. It may just be a hardware problem with the drive if it doesn't start to install.

"Living tomorrow is everyone's sorrow.
Modern man's daydreams have turned into nightmares.

 

[bsquared18]

RE: "It may just be a hardware problem with the drive if it doesn't start to install."

Worth a try, although since it had the same result with two different disc drives, it seemed unlikely.

I tried another old (but non-Adobe) install program, and everything worked as it should.

Other ideas?

Bill

 

[linney]

What happens if you attempt to copy all the installation files from any CD's to the hard drive and then to attempt to run Setup from there? If your machine wont copy them across can you make use of another machine and a USB?



How to perform a clean boot in Windows

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135/en-au

How to perform a clean boot to troubleshoot a problem in Windows Vista, Windows 7, or Windows 8

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/929135

Try right-clicking on the actual Setup.exe and selecting the "Run As Administrator" option? Do so even if your user is an Admin.

 

[goombawaho]

I wouldn't have suggested that idea had you mentioned that troubleshooting step.

"Living tomorrow is everyone's sorrow.
Modern man's daydreams have turned into nightmares.

 

[bsquared18]

RE: "I wouldn't have suggested that idea had you mentioned that troubleshooting step."

I know my initial explanation was a bit long-winded, but buried in it was: "I tried installing with the installation disc first in the computer's drive and then in an external drive."

RE: "Try right-clicking on the actual Setup.exe and selecting the "Run As Administrator" option?"

I tried that with Photoshop, but the results are the same.

RE: "What happens if you attempt to copy all the installation files from any CD's to the hard drive and then to attempt to run Setup from there?"

I realize troubleshooting often involves trying anything that might possibly work. However, I'd be curious to know why the computer would behave differently if the files are on its hard drive vs. on an external disc.

Something else I've noticed is that with the Adobe discs, unlike other installation discs I've tried, autorun isn't detected, although that feature is included.

I appreciate your help. Any other suggestions?

Bill

 

[guitarzan]

According to some quick searches, Adobe Photoshop 6 (which was released in 2000!!!) is a 16-bit installer!!! Not gonna work on 64-bit, except with a virtual machine etc. I suspect your Windows 7 was 32-bit, so maybe that's why it worked.

 

[bsquared18]

guitarzan,

Thanks for taking the time to do some research.

Yes, my laptop is 64-bit, 64-based processor while the Win 7 desktop is 32 bit, so that may very well be why I cannot install those two Adobe programs on that computer.

But here's the kicker. My other desktop is running 64-bit, 64-based processor, the same setup as my laptop, and I was able to install both Photoshop and Illustrator on it. One other thing: On my laptop I was able to install Cool Edit 2000, so some other older programs aren't a problem. I suppose it's a combination of factors that are pretty impossible to overcome.

Yes, I know I have to expect to run into problems as these software programs get increasingly old, but I hate to give up a program that's doing what I need, to pay for one that has more than I need.

There's always free Gimp instead of Photoshop. Am I tight with my money? Here's a hint: my forebears on my father's side came from a small country in the British Isles known for its thrrrrrift.

Thanks,
Bill

 

[apstef]

RE: "What happens if you attempt to copy all the installation files from any CD's to the hard drive and then to attempt to run Setup from there?"

I realize troubleshooting often involves trying anything that might possibly work. However, I'd be curious to know why the computer would behave differently if the files are on its hard drive vs. on an external disc.

This is actually a test to see if all the files are really readable from the CD.

 

[xwb]

You could run a 32-bit W7 VM on your machine and run your old program from there.

 

[bsquared18]

Thank you, xwb. I will give that a try. Never done that before. Will have to do some research.

Bill

 

[linney]

how to install hyper-v on windows 8 ?

http://social.technet.microsoft.com.../thread/49bcd70f-840b-41c5-9ba1-a40ac8dd5dc3/

This covers the whole gambit of virtual machines in "Home" versions if you want to have a look at it. Of course you will need a licensed copy of Windows to install and run in any of them.

VirtualBox is an impressive VM contender

http://windowssecrets.com/search/?c...ender+&sa=Search&advWS=1&advSAN=1&advPages=15

 

[xwb]

For software of XP vintage, I normally run an XP VM. W7 was useful for that: it had XP mode.

 

[bsquared18]

From the brief searching I did online, I see that Windows 8 comes with Hyper V; it just needs to be enabled. I'll look into that.

Thanks everyone.

Bill

 

[goombawaho]

Couldn't you just break open the piggy bank?? It might be good psychologically as well to avoid becoming too cheap!!!

"Living tomorrow is everyone's sorrow.
Modern man's daydreams have turned into nightmares.

 

[bsquared18]

Thank you. I'll discuss that with my therapist at my next session.

Bill

 

[goombawaho]

Seriously - if you become too cheap or too anything, it starts to paralyze your mind.

"Living tomorrow is everyone's sorrow.
Modern man's daydreams have turned into nightmares.

 

[guitarzan]

> it starts to paralyze your mind.
... or it makes you learn about technology that you might not have otherwise learned about, which does exactly the opposite

 

[goombawaho]

Right, unless you do nothing. If you mean "alternative products", then that would also solve the problem and stimulate your mind.

"Living tomorrow is everyone's sorrow.
Modern man's daydreams have turned into nightmares.

 

[audiopro]

You could always do what I did, visit the Adobe website in order to find a price to upgrade to the latest version of Photoshop.
Search endlessly through the options of monthly, weekly, yearly, hourly payment plans to enjoy the fantastic Cloud versions of all the software.
Wonder why the simple act of buying software has become so complicated.
Decide to stick with the version I have and make a note to myself to never design a website which actively discourages people from purchasing the goods on offer.

Keith

http://www.studiosoft.co.uk