Printing with Pagemaker 7.0.1 Postscript Problems 2

[drbgaijin]

I'm new to the forum. So I haven't got the hang of asking questions in a short and effective way yet.
I am sure the answer to my problem is simple...but the way to ask is complicated.
I will start the ball rolling with:
I have 2 computers one with English Windows 2000 pro, the other with Japanese Windows 2000 pro. I am just installed a Brother 1850 Laser printer with BRScript3 (=Postscript 3).
I can print postscript with Adobe Illustartor and Corel Draw but Pagemaker refuses to print correctly. At the best I get a substitute font printing.
I have the brother PPD installed in the correct Pagemaker directory, it shows up when I go to Print.
I had installed Adobe Type manager previously, later I found I could use Windows 2000 font management. Should I remove the Adobe Type manager and reinstall my Type 1 fonts?
Sorry to begin my first Thread with such a long description.... over to you.....smile

 

[BionicJohn]

a few more details please:
To which computer is the Brother Printer attached?
Are the two computers networked?
ATM - which version? ATM 4.1 Deluxe is the preferred version.
Check that your Brother Printer is using its own PS driver as it is a clone, not a genuine AdobePS printer.

Iechyd da! John
12:20 18/01/03 GMT

 

[drbgaijin]

The Brother printer is connected to a USB switch. The USB switcher is connected to both the printers. So I manually change to source.
The computers are not networked.
On the English windows it is ATM 4.1 Deluxe.
On the Japanese windows it is ATM 4.1 J(apanese) I am not sure if it is called "Deluxe" in Japan.
The Brother has its own drivers installed. The English one and the Japanese ones on the correct computers.
If it is using them or not I am not sure how I could check that. But I did notice that the control panel that is shown in the manual does not look the same as the one that appears when I go to the advanced options for the printer??

I hope this helps...

Now it is 0.50am Sunday, here in Japan, so I will turn in for the night....

 

[drbgaijin]

Just a small correction to my previous mail.
The Control Panel shown in the manual is for windows 98, and it points out other windows versions may have a different appearance...so that is not an issue.

Would it be an idea to try and install the printer via the parallel port instead of the USB?

 

[BionicJohn]

Let me get this straight:

You have 2 PCs, not networked, sharing a printer via a USB manual switch.

One PC has English/American Windows 2K, the other has WinJ 2K.

The English/American PC has ATM4.1 deluxe.
The WinJ you are not sure about - to check, see if it has ability to manage fonts into groups. If it doesn't, it's ATM Light, and could be the source of your problems.

Both PCs have the correct BrotherScript Drivers. You can check in Win2K under the Advanced tab in Printer Properties which driver is being used.

Which has PageMaker installed? Does the WinJ PC have Japanese PageMaker installed?

Sorry to ask so many questions, but I'm not very familiar with WinJ and PNJ though I did use them when I was in Japan a few years ago. The keyboard looks very different if not impossible to European eyes!

Iechyd da! John
12:06 19/01/03 GMT

 

[drbgaijin]

Your summary is correct, John.
I have also found out that the Japanese ATM is the lite version.
But I cannot believe it is the trouble, as I get the same problem on the english windows machine which has the deluxe ATM.
I have checked the advanced printer tab and the correct driver is listed.
Japanese machine has Japanese Pagemaker 7 installed.

Sice I wrote last I have downloaded Adobes Tryout version of their InDesign.
After installation, I could get it to print the Postscript correctly, I also installed the English one on the Japanese machine - it also worked correctly.
Then I realised that on both Illustrator and the InDesign, I could set "force fonts to download" I can't do that in pagemaker(?).
If I didn't force the font download then both Illustrator and InDesign gave the same results as Pagemaker.

Does that confuse you, or does it help?

 

[viol8ion]

Are the fonts you are using Unicode? If that is the case, then you are out of luck with PM as it does not support Unicode.

Hey John, how goes things in the UK? I have been remiss in not getting near the adobe forums in 2 weeks now... but I have sold a painting the other day, and am beginning a newspaper. When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.

http://www.wuli.com

 

[drbgaijin]

Maybe I have found the answer!
It has to do with the printers resident fonts and what I am putting in my documents.
The printer (Japanese driver version) has only two Type1 fonts for japanese characters. One serif and one non-serif. All the other fonts are type1, but for standard english. So when I am trying out many different fonts.....only the ones that can be substituted by the Japanese ones are coming out in japanese...the others are being substituted by "Courier" which has no japanese characters.
I have a set of Japanese Open-type fonts installed (standard version - not pro) they are not being substituted either. Does Pagemaker have problems with Open-type fonts?

So when I print from Illustrator or InDesign I can force the font to download.

If I print via Pagemaker, but not with the postscript driver...the fonts work...but that does not help me as I also have .eps or .ai diagrams on the pages - and then they only are printed as bitmaps!

Thank you both for your contributions to my problem...I think I have found the reason for the problems.

What do you think?

 

[viol8ion]

>>So when I print from Illustrator or InDesign I can force the font to download.

If the fonts are printer resident fonts, No. Pagemaker does not always play well with Open Type fonts, and does not support Unicode fonts at all. Big John can probably help you more with the InDesign question.

For best results, use Type1 PS fonts, or high quality True Type fonts. In your situation, it seems that you may have to be creative with only 2 font choices.

When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.

http://www.wuli.com

 

[BionicJohn]

Hi, drbgaijin

Ah - the dreaded printer fonts!! Avoid them - they only cause trouble. As Carl says, try to use only high-grade fonts from the big foundries like Adobe, Linotype, Agfa, Monotype. If you're outputting to postscript, use Type1 fonts.


Hi, Carl,

Yes, I saw you're starting newspaper; all the best. I'm looking forward to the PDF/online version!!

Life in AdobeForums PMWin is as usual; serene, erudite and polite!

As regards ID, I only have the downloaded 30 day demo!

Iechyd da! John
02:08 21/01/03 GMT

 

[viol8ion]

>>Yes, I saw you're starting newspaper; all the best. I'm looking forward to the PDF/online version!!

I have no plans for that until next year. It was difficult enough to get funding for the first 2 issues. We will be quarterly at first. However, you know my email, if you want a hard copy, email me and I will be glad to air-snail mail you a copy.

After the first year, we will be either monthly & online, or defunct! I am betting online, and successful! When in doubt, deny all terms and defnitions.

http://www.wuli.com

 

[BionicJohn]

Hi, Carl,

You've got post!

Iechyd da! John
22:14 25/01/03 GMT