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Phantom Ringing 1

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Nickrm

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Jun 2, 2004
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We have been experiencing problems with phantom ringing ever since our current system has been in place. Every so often, a phone that is on the call centre will ring and when it is answered, there is no one on the line. Once the phone is answered, the phantom call may be routed immediately to the next available phone on our call centre or, if it is the only available phone, when the phone is hung up, it will continue ringing on the same phone. When this problem occurs, it often lasts anywhere between a half hour to approximately three hours.

We've attempted to track the call to a particular physical line but with no success. There doesn't appear to be a specific line that causes the problem. Furthermore, we've had all of our outside lines checked and, at this point, there are no problems with them according to the phone technicians we've dealt with.

We've done our best to determine if there is a particular user action that may cause the problem but we can't seem to find anything. It seems that the problem can happen anywhere between one week to one month or possibly more without any distinct period.

The equpiment we are using is as follows:

KSU - M8x24 - DS Sofware: DR5-824
+ M12 x 10
+ M0 x 16
+ M0 x 16

Norstar Voice Mail system
Cinphony 1 ACD - installed on the NVM.

When the phantom calls occur, they are routed through the system normally from phone to phone as though they were typical calls. The only thing that is not typical about them is that they do not terminate when answered. We are uncertain as to what eventually allows the calls to stop.


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. We've dug quite deep into the problem with little result at this point.
 
I would suggest you post your software version for the 8x24 DR5 software and the actual release of the Cinphony software.
This could easily be a software incompatibility a patch may be required.

Have you tried something as simple as rebooting the ACD and phone system?
Shut down the ACD.
Reboot the Norstar and wait for about 10 minutes then fire up the ACD.

David Brillert
 
Aragon,

I belive the version of the 8x24 DR5 software is 12.10. I'm not 100% sure how to determine what the version of the software is. As for the Cinphony version, it is 3.50.0038.

As far as rebooting the Norstar system is concerned, we have tried it but it is not an acceptable option for a couple of reasons:

1. The Norstar is connected to a DS30 Station Port Adapter. It seems that upon rebooting the Norstar that it often takes quite some time for the synch to reoccur between the units. It has taken as long as an hour at times for the the units to successfully synch up. Not sure if this is a result of a config issue of it is simply the nature of the system.

2. We have a relatively busy call centre and we want to avoid the downtime as much as possible.

There are some other config issues that I don't want to get into at this time that make rebooting less than a simple task. There has been a couple of occasions where the phantom calls started after a reboot as well. Finally, the problem has occurred with far too great a frequency to rely on rebooting. It must be possible to resolve it somehow and be done with it.

Let me add as well, that I'm not by any means an expert with phone systems. We kind of got stuck with the current system and we've been doing our best to troubleshoot the problems.

Nick Ragany
 
The DS-30 adaptor should be a release 4 or higher as per Nortel, however I do not like these adaptors. I am not alone.
It is possible to load the software on a NAM with copper based voice cards in lieu of the fiber DS-30.
However this will be a service affecting upgrade (very invasive/lots of downtime).
The last supported version of 8x24 DR5 was known as DR5.1 and it is still be possible to acquire this software.
If you were to login with the config password to your KSU you will find a maintenance heading, press show and you will see version, press show again and you sill see an SP code please post.

To resolve once and for all I would recommend replacing the 8x24 with a MICS 6.1 cabinet and required expansion modules/cards, and have Cintech or your vendor provide the latest software for the ACD.

A busy call center as you say should not have to recurr these types of issues. Cintech and Nortel have been constantly upgrading their software and the two need to be compatible.

David Brillert
 
The DS30 appears to be release 5. I checked on the back of the device. I wasn't aware that these devices could be problematic outside of the odd synch issue we experience after rebooting.

We do have DR5.1. I just went and checked the module. The SP code is 30MUM10. In case it helps, the RTP code is 30GBG03.

I'm not certain if replacing the 8x24 is an option we can afford at this time. I have been told that it is relatively old though and will keep this in mind for the future or if all else fails.

Nevertheless, I believe that there is the possibility that our issue could be caused by config problems or config options that we are simply unaware of.
 
Checklist:

Norstar programming requirements
When you are ready to Program the Norstar KSU, make sure the following ACD requirements are met:
ACD and Non-ACD C.O. Lines
Note: If Voice Mail is answering all lines, then lines do not need to be assigned to ACD.
. Determine the Lines used for ACD.
. ACD Lines must be assigned to ACD only and Backup Station Set.
ACD Line Settings (Norstar Trk/Line Data feature):
. Set Prime Set to NONE (Prime Set:None).
. Set Trunk Mode to Supervised (Trunk Mode:Super)
. Set ACD Line Type to Pool or Public (Line Type:pool or Public)
Note: If Line Type is set to Pool, the Line can be used for Outgoing Calls.
Agent/Supervisor Station Set Specifications:
. A Station Set with CAP assignment cannot be used as an Agent Set.
. Each Station Set must have at least 2 Intercom buttons. ACD Lines ring on the Intercom button because
Lines are not assigned to the Station Set.
. There can be no appearance of ringing or non-ringing ACD Lines on any Agent Set.
. Norstar settings for Agent Station Sets:
• Prime Line = I/C or NONE
• FULL HF, AUTO HF, HF ANSWERBACK = YES
Backup Station Set Specifications
A Backup Station Set is required to take incoming calls if ACD becomes unavailable. This Set must have
all ACD lines assigned to it, and it cannot be assigned to an Agent. At least 1 Station Set must be
dedicated as backup.
• M7310 / T7316 - can be used for a Call Center with 1-8 lines
• M7324 - if Call Center utilizes more than 24 lines, this dedicated Set may need a CAP module
attached
. Assign only ACD lines to the dedicated Backup Station Set.
. Record the Extension Number for the Set so that during Norstar Programming you can assign all Lines
to the Set.
. ACD lines should have a ringing appearance on this Set.
Note: refer to Chapter 3 - Installing PRELUDE or CINPHONY ACD 3.5, Startup for Applications Module
and ACD Software to configure the Backup Station Set DN (extension).
General Specifications
. Set Relocation to NO
. DRT and FORWARD NO ANSWER/BUSY must be higher than ACD AutoLogout duration.
. DISCONNECT SUPERVISION (DS) should be enabled on all ACD Lines, KSU, S/W cartridge, and Trunk Module.


David Brillert
 
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