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Passing Caller ID to Analog Phones on a Legend 2

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tdaugirdas

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Dagwood - I would be interested in how you can get Caller ID info to pass to an analog phone on a Legend.

Tom Daugirdas,
President
STCG, Inc.
stcg.com
 
Dagwoodsystems - where are you - when we need you??

Tom Daugirdas,
President
STCG, Inc.
stcg.com
 
Well - I'm still waiting for DagwoodSystems to respond - since he was the one that mentioned that he had a way to do it. I left him a message on the post where he first mentioned the possibility.

Tom Daugirdas,
President
STCG, Inc.
stcg.com
 
I wonder if he sets the ANALOG Extensions up as INTEGRATED VOICE MAIL, but that would only work with MAGIX R3 & 4.

Not to mention, you would get all these tones in your ear when you answered.

 
merlinman,

Would that even be usable? or is it a proprietary stream?
 
MM...whats different about an analog ext set with integrated vm in a magix 3 or 4????
I have seen no different in the way it functions verses
Legend r7 software...still sends DTMF mode codes to the
VM....
 
The DTMF tones for Integrated VMI are not the same as the data stream sent for CID.
 
So there is a CID Data stream that is passed to integrated voice mail extensions?
 
Well, maybe over the next few days I'll fire this up in one of my Lab machines and see what happens.

In the Mean Time, DAGWOOD, where are you?
 
Sorry everyone. I just got my blue suit and red cape out of the drycleaners and I've been out saving the world.

Alas, merlinman is right-on as usual. The trick is to terminate these lines into a VMI call group. And ttech is accurate as well; inband signalling refers to the DTMF sent by the switch, and is not true Caller ID.

However, an EX200 (or other such box) will convert inband DTMF to true Bellcore FSK Caller ID.

I had no idea that my passing remark would cause trouble, and I regret getting everyone riled up over what probably looks like an incredibly lame response.

I will say that I used this exact technique for a customer who wanted a virtual fax extension for each user. I did this by renumbering the adjunct of every "real" extension and give it coverage to a fax-modem group.

The fax calls were given coverage by Group #1, which was nothing more than a pool of analog stations. Each station in turn goes to a DTMF-FSK converter, then into a fax-modem card. Within the fax software, a DID to email conversion table is built. When a customer sends a fax to a user's associated "virtual fax DID", is is ultimately received in email as a PDF attachment.

I just thought it was kinda cool 'cause the whole thing was done on a Magix. I was told that it couldn't be done with a Magix because the fax-modems could only understand FSK Caller-ID.

Admittedly, I was initally unaware of the extra information that is sent along with the dialed digits. I discovered it after rigging my PC across one of the analog connections to the fax-modem and took a sample. I shot the sample up to which offers free DTMF decoding from a wave file.

Suffice it to say that it took another couple of visits AFTER I got the converter box to throw away the #03# that would always prefix the inband DTMF digits.

I have been accused of always finding the hardest way to do something (although I learn a lot), and this is a perfect example.
 
I like it! it may just do the trick on a DVR project I am working on.
 
So you're not passing Caller ID, but a special purpose "CLID" to indicate what the caller dialed, not who the caller is.

Still could be useful in the future....
 
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