Panasonic PABX system, replace, or upgrade, help please.

[CH_eng]

Hi,

We currently have a Pansonic PABX, with 2 Incoming VOIP Lines, 2 incoming GSM lines, 1 incoming landline.

The system is:
KXtds200 PABX
KXT7533 phones
KW tda0141 Dect cell stations
KX tca 285 DECT handsets.

With Panasonic exiting the market and our DECT handsets beooming obsolete, we need to replace or upgrade the system.

All advice would be gratefully received.

Thanks

 

[Mike_K]

For example, PBX Yeastar P-series or S-series, with IP DECT W80DM.

 

[CH_eng]

Thanks Mike,

As youve probably guessed, our system is mostly analogue. Will the Yeastar systems work with the old analogue equipment, or will it be a complete wire pull and replacement of all fixed handsets too?

Thanks

 

[Mike_K]

Yeastar have SIP-analog gateways (FXS).
The gateways work perfectly with old analog equipment.

 

[CH_eng]

Thanks Mike, thats really helpful. Here is our exact architecture for reference:
8x cell stations for DECT
AREA "Ext
No" "Floating
Ext" SLOT PORT GROUP TELTYPE
Aft Deck 207 207 8 13 1 Depap
Upper Deck Aft Dining 309 208 7 7 2 KX-T7636
Captains Cabin 302 310 5 5 1 KX-T7636
Crew Cabin 1 101 101 4 3 1 KX-T7565
Crew Cabin 2 102 102 4 2 1 KX-T7565
Crew Cabin 3 103 103 4 5 1 KX-T7565
Crew Cabin 4 104 104 4 4 1 KX-T7565
Crew Cabin 5 105 105 4 7 1 KX-T7565
Crew Cabin 6 106 106 4 6 1 KX-T7565
Crew Cabin 7 107 107 6 5 1 KX-T7533
Crew Cabin 8 108 108 4 xdp01 1 Depap
Crew Mess 111 111 6 4 1 KX-T7636
DECT Captain 502 310 KX-TCA255
DECT Engineer 503 503 KX-TCA255
DECT Steward 2 504 504 KX-TCA255
DECT TAM 501 501 KX-TCA255
DECT WAM 500 500 KX-TCA255
DECT Steward 506 505
DECT Steward 605 505
DECT Steward 3 606 606
Engine Room 114 112 6 3 1 KX-T7565
Fax Machine 333 333 8 1 Canon Fax
Galley 109 109 6 2 1 KX-T7565
Guest Suite 1 221 201 6 7 2 Not Connected
Guest Suite 1 241 201 6 8 2 KX-T7533
Guest Suite 1 Bathroom 231 201 8 7 2 As exisitng
Guest Suite 2 222 202 6 10 2 Not Connected
Guest Suite 2 242 202 6 9 2 KX-T7533
Guest Suite 2 Bathroom 232 202 8 8 2 Depap
Guest Suite 3 223 203 6 11 2 KX-T7533
Guest Suite 3 Bathroom 233 203 8 9 2 Depap
Guest Suite 4 224 204 6 12 2 KX-T7533
Guest Suite 4 Bathroom 234 204 8 10 2 Depap
Guest Suite 5 125 115 5 15 2 KX-T7533
Guest Suite 5 145 115 5 14 2 Not Connected
Guest Suite 5 Bathroom 135 115 8 5 2 Depap
Guest Suite 6 126 116 5 16 2 Not Connected
Guest Suite 6 146 116 6 1 2 KX-T7533
Guest Suite 6 Bathroom 136 116 8 6 2 Depap
Guest Suite 7 147 117 5 11 2 KX-T7533
Guest Suite 7 127 117 Not Connected
Guest Suite 7 Bathroom 137 117 8 3 2 Depap
Guest Suite 8 148 118 5 12 2 KX-T7533
Guest Suite 8 Bathroom 138 118 8 4 2 Depap
Laundry 110 110 6 6 1 KX-T7565
Lazarette Steering 129 119 7 5 1 KX-T7565
Lazarette Centre 139 119 7 8 1 KX-T7565
Library + DSS 300 300 7 4 2 KX-T7636
Main Lounge 206 206 5 13 2 KX-T7533
Office Spare Socket 259 259 8 11 2 Not Connected
Officers Mess 304 304 8 12 1 Depap
OSR Bathroom 214 200 6 15 2 KX-T7565
OSR Bed TAM 211 200 7 2 2 KX-T7636
OSR Bed WAM 212 200 7 1 2 KX-T7636
OSR Desk Port TAM + DSS 213 200 7 3 2 KX-T7636
OSR Desk Stbd WAM + DSS 215 200 7 16 2 KX-T7636
Pantry (Main Deck) 205 205 6 13 1 KX-T7565
Pantry (Sun Deck) 405 405 5 7 1 KX-T7565
Pantry (Upper Deck) 305 305 5 3 1 KX-T7565
Office 303 310 5 6 1 KX-T7636
Ships Office Wall Tel 311 311 8 2 1 Depap
Sun Deck Bar 402 402 5 1 2 KX-T7636
Sun Deck Lounge Port Sofa 401 400 7 10 2 KX-T7636
Sun Deck Lounge Stbd Desk 403 400 7 11 2 KX-T7636
Upper Deck Lounge P 308 306 5 2 2 KX-T7636
Upper Deck Lounge S 307 306 7 6 2 KX-T7636
Bridge 301 301 6 14 1 KX-T7636
Engine Room Ring detect 113 112 8 14 1 Lights & Siren

Paging Groups 1 All Crew Area's
Paging Groups 2 Guest Area's
Paging Groups 3 All Area's

Shore 1 801
Shore 2 802
VOIP 1 803
VOIP 2 804
GSM 1 Voice 805
GSM 2 Voice 806
GSM 1 Fax 807
GSM 2 Fax 808
SATCOM Fleet 55 Voice 809
SATCOM Fleet 55 Fax 810


Cheers

 

[Mike_K]

Almost all of your equipment will only work with PBX Panasonic.
Unfortunately, Panasonic is leaving the market. I have no ideas.

 

[omonat]

I would recommend you integrate your Panasonic KX-TDA200 with an IP-Based system to enable you have a pain-free slow migration to VoIP.
It's what i have done for most large corporations here that were using Panasonic systems.
What would happen is that every Panasonic set that fails, you replace with a SIP-based handset rather than doing it all at once which you seem not to be comfortable with because of the cost implication.

For example, i have a client with Panasonic KX-TDA200 integrated to Sangoma PBXact which is seated at a remote site via PRI and the analog sets are gradually being replaced.

Wanet Telecoms Limited

 

[Tele-tech]

Emetrotel has support for Panasonic phones on their platform now.

 

[Fodrod]

I'll let you know, that at least in north america, NEC's indect doesn't work. Doesn't support half the features, and is very unreliable. One customer we have right now with 10 phones, drops average of 4 calls a day, in stupid little bursts. (They probably get 250 calls a day). NEC support was not very helpful with he issue.

 

[CMUK]

I like NEC for Pana replacements, got loads out there now
Got hospitals using the NEC dect, very reliable.


Calum M
ACSS

 

[Fodrod]

CMUK, I don't want to get this thread offtopic, but curious, the nec dect, is it using the SV9100, SL2100, SV9300, or unverge blue?
And did you ever struggle with dropped calls on the NEC indect?

 

[CMUK]

Fodrod, I have a mix of SL2100/SV9100 (both using InDECT) then we have some univerge bulue and SV9500 (don't think these are InDECT, I didn't install these)

Calum M
ACSS

 

[Fodrod]

And they all worked great for you no problem? Like I said they've been dropping calls like crazy on me, and the system will sometimes lock up
(setting the pbx to daily reboot fixed this) NEC support wasn't able to get me anywhere, though they did tell me not to use line keys or cap keys on the phones as somehow that sends too much data and confuses them. I will say though, version 1.60 made it alot better, from useless garbage to now just not a good product. (Nevermind the price)
Did you have any similar problems that were resolved or?

Anyhow, reply in the thread that I made before asking questions so we don't clutter here.

https://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1814464