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Outside Operation processsing 'Y' count point

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Mar 4, 2004
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We have several parts that have an outside operation as their last routing operation. The problem is Macola does not allow an outside operation to have a 'Y' count point.

The only way to complete the part and process the 'Y' count point appears to be to add a bogus operation after the outside operation and flag it as a 'Y' count point. I have to believe someone has found a better 'work around' than this since this would require an extra SFC activity transaction for each of these parts.

If someone has a better idea or way to do this, I would appreciate the feedback.

Thanks!

Jim
 
I guess I can see why Macola don't do this as typically 'something' happens to a product when it comes back in from an outside process i.e. it's rare that you'd send a product out for work, and then simply throw it on your shelf as a completed item (and even throwing it on the shelf would technically add value to it). Notice I say rare, as you obviously have an item that fits this scenario. I know of no other way to achieve your desired result without having a 'Y' count point as a separate (and last) operation.

Peter Shirley
 
Peter,

Thanks for the response. Actually none (or very few) of our parts that we send for outside processing, whether it is painting, plating, machining etc. get 'thrown on a shelf'. A majority are subassemblies, subweldments etc that continue on as part of a finished product.

Not sure if I have explained this very well, I can clarify if necessary.

Thanks!
Jim
 
Question,
Does the last step have to be a Y count point ?
I would sugguest you test making the second to last or some other step a Y cound point. The Y count point is what puts the parent item into stock (@ std or the current average from the location file). Closing the order books the variance or updates the avg cost in the location.
 
Most shop floor sites I have worked with use an inspection operation as the final operation & code it as a Y count point & backflush if you are trying to save data entry steps. Wouldn't you need to do some QC or inspection on a part you sent out for processing as a general procedure?
 
Thanks for the feedback regarding the 'Y' count operation. We really don't want to do the 'Y' count any earlier than when the part returns from the outside operation so it doesn't show up as 'on hand' prior to returning from off site.

We don't perform a formal inspection per se on outside operations. We expect our vendor to provide parts to our spec and depend on them to deliver accordingly. It is rare a part is found defective so it doesn't justify inspecting parts. We do count them though and receive in the PO attached to the outside process so we just add an extra 'non value added step' to the process and complete the 'Y' count process as well.

Right now I would be happen if non value added steps were my only frustration with Macola! Basic accounting 101 would be wonderful. Or posting without disbursement records disappearing. Or finishing a month and actually having the OE history details balance to the G/L. I could go on and on.

Thanks again for the feedback.
 
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