Oracle license renewal 2

[fatchoy]

Hi



Anyone can update me whether currently do we need to renew oracle license annually?

Another question : if i stop renewing my oracle support license ,am i still able to continue to use my oracle product?

thank in advance

 

[flstffatboy]

Fatchoy,

In all my experience the Oracle license does not need to be updated yearly. Once you buy the product it is yours. We are actually going through this right now. We are migrationg from an Oracle ERP system to a Microsoft ERP system running on SQL Server We stopped paying our Oracle support but the product is ours to keep.

Anyways what I do know is the Oracle support contract does need to be renewed to continue support. I believe the support can be purchased in yearly increments. If you stop paying support the Oracle product is yours to keep but you can't get upgrades, log tars etc.

Hope this helps,
FLSTF

 

[Beantree]

Also,

If you let your support contract lapse, and you later want to have support, you will have to back pay all support, and possible migrate to whatever the current licensing is.

We are experiencing this now and it SUCKS!!!!

We had a concurrent Session license from 1998, and now have to migrate to the named user. It will cost us 3 - 4 timees what we originally paid due to the number of processors we use, and the minimums for Named User.

 

[DBAwhosaysNIE]

we've gone through the same thing trying to convert PUs to CPUs. the arrogance of that company is beyond words in the English language. unfortunately the db is still better than any of the OSS offerings but they're closing the gap while Redwood's burning bridges. once a couple of high profile customers convert to mySQL or PostGres and are willing to talk about it (how-to white paper) I think the dam will burst on them. who knows? it might end up being me...

 

[cliousa]

If you stop paying for Support & Upgrade - you can still use the license you paid for. There is one catch - you cannot apply patches or upgrade to the next version, unless you renew your Support & Upgrade options. And you cannot renew your Support & Upgrade options once you terminated them on the same license. You have to buy another new license with these options.

So you do the math which one will save you money in a long run ...


Hope that helps,

clio_usa

http://www.dbaclick.com

 

[fmorel]

Did anyone ever tested SAP-DB ?
It is open source and seems to be better than mysql or postgres. What do you think?

 

[pabloj]

Very nice database, definitely much better than MySQL. Why asking in this thread?

Stick to your guns

 

[fmorel]

Pabloj:

Some people were complaining about oracle license fees (I do so...). So I asked in this thread. I don't want to be "flamed" after opening a thread on SAP DB in an Oracle user group.

Did you only test that database or did you use it in production?

 

[DBAwhosaysNIE]

we've looked at SAP-DB. there are a lot of things about it we do like better than mySQL/PostGres but a couple of things make me nervous about it:

1. SAP's only doing this to screw Oracle and could pull a Sun (StarOffice) on us at any time.
2. mySQL seems to have by far the biggest user base and development community behind it so I honestly believe they will be the 1st to close the gap on Oracle (just my 2c).

it's a little tangental but I don't have a problem with discussing alternatives within this context. unfortunately, being an "Oracle shop" requires more than technical skill: you have to deal with their sales force and keep a close eye on your wallet (and watch, and possibly spare kidney).

 

[pabloj]

I have to disagree with DBAwhosaysNIE, MySQL has the larges user base, but it's extremely far from PostgreSQL (not to mention Oracle).
Currently it does not support views, stored procedures and triggers.
Support for subqueries is in alpha stage (MySQL 4.1.0), I think it'll take them not less than 2 years to put out something comparable to the PostgreSQL available now (7.3)

Stick to your guns

 

[tjwb]

we also had this issue and used a third party consultancy to help us out - which happily they were able to do. It seems to me that Oracle go out of their way to make the whole licencing issue difficult to understand and wring as much as they can out of their exisitng customer base by holding a gun to their head. no way to do long term business in my view.

good luck