Oh Dear! And the general IQ drops another level, ... 1

[ChrisHirst]

... I do fear that the world is steadily dropping back to where all communication will be monosyllabic with numerals representing entire words or phrases.

Marketing message just received from Pizza Hut

Which is it 241 or 33% off..?

And of course does appear to indicate that their mathematics are also somewhat awry.

Chris.

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[SamBones]

From that message you received, I assume their marketing depart writes all their copy with just their thumbs. Probably while driving.

Sad times. The upcoming generation will literally "phone it in".

 

[SkipVought]

It's all about conserving bandwidth. Does that mean a shift to the right?

 

[Andrzejek]

conserving bandwidth" and recycling electrons.

Have fun.

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[SamBones]

Heh, "recycling electrons". That reminds me of back in the day when we'd tell the new kids to "empty out the bit buckets". It was funny until one of them logged in as [tt]root[/tt] and typed "[tt]rm /dev/null[/tt]".

 

[gbaughma]

It was funny until one of them logged in as root and typed "rm /dev/null".

Just my 2¢

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[SgtJarrow]

Weighing those electrons you are throwing away and my Kindle is getting heavier...

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/oct/26/kindle-weighs-more-when-fully-loaded[/URL]]
Popped into Einstein's formula, this gives an answer of around one attogram, meaning the weight of a full Kindle was a billionth of a billionth of a gram more than a factory-fresh one. Which isn't so bad, considering that 10,000 books – a fraction a Kindle can hold – might weigh five tonnes. An attogram, very roughly, is one tenth the weight of a small virus.

Now I just need a scale that can detect attograms....

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[johnherman]

interesting trivia about /dev/null (as discovered circa 2006, but perhaps changed by now)
In the Solaris world, you cannot append to /dev/null, you can only write to it.
HP-UX will allow you to append to /dev/null.

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[SamBones]

In the Solaris world, you cannot append to /dev/null, you can only write to it.

That's no longer true...

$ uname -a | cut -f1,3-9 -d' '
SunOS 5.10 Generic_147147-26 sun4v sparc SUNW,SPARC-Enterprise-T5220
$ date >> /dev/null
$

 

[Westi]

The math genius must be the same that has set the ad in the Pressy website
buy 1 device for $27 or get $20 off when you buy 3 devices for $70
I actually sent them an email about this about a week ago but so far no change

Joe W.

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[kwbMitel]

@westi - The Price per unit is stated as $30 in the single unit:

1 - $3 Dollars Off for $27
2 - $10 Dollars Off for $50
3 - $20 Dollars off for $70

Not clear but not wrong.

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[Olaf Doschke]

While I didn't thought about this 3.43 (24/7) I only realize now what 241 should mean.

ouch

Bye, Olaf.

 

[Olaf Doschke]

By the way 20 for 7 would be 65% off.

 

[johnherman]

BTW, IQ stands for Intelligence Quotient. It's the ratio of a person's intellectual age compared to the person's physial age, as measured by some standardized test. The intellectual age is taken as the median for someone of that age group. So, if I had the intellectual age of an average 16 year old when I was 10, then my IQ would be 16 divided by 10 (times 100) = 160. If I maintain the 6 year lead over the general public, then when I am 18, my IQ will have fallen to 150. That's the flaw of IQ scores, and why they are generally not trusted by many educators. First, one must assume that the standardized tests are equivalent across time. There are also questions about the validity of the tests themselves; do the test questions really measure intelligence. In any case, almost everyone with knowledge about IQ tests admit they are meaningless after the person turns 20.

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[Olaf Doschke]

Hi john, this is not the definition of what I knwo about IQ.
An IQ of 130+ is sensational, not because your intellectual age is 30% higher than your physial age.
100 is the normal IQ, however high or low that is, and the distribution of IQs is with a standard deviation of 15.
I heard about such a definition as your's, but it's outdated, see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quotient,

which confirms what I rememberred about the standard deviation of IQ values.

What is true is that the norming sample has to be taken for each age group and so the IQ you get in an IQ test designed for pupils must be shifted to your age and in that regard the compuations you talked about might make sense, though it's not really making sense. The IQ doesn't grow linear with age. You learn most in your childhood and then the amount you learn lowers and with high age you rather get a backward drift, especially but not only with dementia. So the simple dividing of ages will not be the factor to take into account.

I know this other IQ definition, as I almost was a MENSA member. I proved an IQ of 133 in a comprehensive test of the Hamburg university which was taking about a whole day (8h). That was, when I was a pupil and it was to see if I qualified for intellectual giftedness. I got some sort of scholarship that would have saved me 1 or 2 semesters of studying math. I later studied physics and now am a software developer.

As you can see here, 96% of all people fall in the IQ range of 70-130. The Mensa club has an entry IQ of 130 and so is the intellectual 2% elite.
I was on the low end of this elite and I can say it's not fun to be on this side, so I left that scholarship, I also didn't make a career as physicist, but decided for what I like best, programming.

Bye, Olaf.

 

[SamBones]

In any case, almost everyone with knowledge about IQ tests admit they are meaningless after the person turns 20.

I believe after 20 the meaningful test is how well you do "couch playing" Jeopardy.

 

[johnherman]

Using Olaf's link, I found this quote about IQ "although this was not always so historically". It appears that my knowledge of the definition of IQ is historical, and perhaps to some, hysterical In any case, I can reasonably challege any IQ test just as I can reasonably challenge *any* test. A test is trying to measure something as defined by the writers of the test. There is always a question of validity. The people who wrote the test for MENSA wrote questions to measure Intelligence as defined by them. Whether the rest of the world agrees with their definition of Intelligence and if so, agrees with their measurement methods (i.e. the questions on the test) is open for discussion, debate, criticism, etc.

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[Westi]

I am remembering just vaguely my last IQ test but I did not really great on it as it was a lot about TV shows of the 70's and 80's when I was not in the country and ergo could not have watched. My mathematical skills were decent and logical thinking was great.
That is how these tests are put together as far as I know and having a good score in one and bad in another can take your IQ right down.
my problem was that my English skills were just about decent and some words they were asking the meaning for i have never heard of before.
Still had a nice score in the 120's though but also noticed that I got lucky as I compare myself to some people that i knew in the past and that were way smarter than I am. I also could never really memorize things well and tests purely on memorizing basic facts have been always bad for me.

@kwbMitel
funny that I never really thought to save $20 if I take the price they had used in the past for the device and not the actual price they are selling the unit for.
I also have to admit that I overlooked the $30 price tag they base it on.
I think they are still way off but it makes more sense now how they have gotten to their error in calculations.
Thanks for letting me know

Joe W.

FHandw, ACSS (SME), ACIS (SME)


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[strongm]

> it was a lot about TV shows of the 70's and 80's

That sounds somewhat more akin to a general knowledge test rather than an IQ test

 

[Olaf Doschke]

>I can reasonably challenge any IQ test just as I can reasonably challenge *any* test.
Yes, for example it's true you get accustomed to certain types of questions and can get better test results without your IQ having changed.
The definition of 100 as the average IQ even fixes the general IQ making a drop of it impossible, while you surely could measure or sense a drop of intelligence or a drop of knowledge and care about a topic like grammar.

Bye, Olaf.