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no search listings...is my site not search friendly?

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bopritchard

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Jan 27, 2003
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can someone please look at
i'm getting absolutely no search listings and i can't figure out why...i've been using this tool called Submission Wizard...one of those things that's supposed to submit your site to 1000+ engines...

i'm guessing that there's something in my pages that's sending the crawlers and spiders away...i just don't know what

many thanks
 
2 things.

You have images containing paragraphs of text, an engine cannot read this so it is wasted.

Secondly, the program you are using is more than likely to cause you more problems rather than help you. Read the posts in this forum, you will see most of us agree that these programs should be binned, manual submission is the best way.

Hope this helps

Wullie


The pessimist complains about the wind. The optimist expects it to change.
The leader adjusts the sails. - John Maxwell
 
There are several issues.

One: Google shows you with zero inbound links. Even searching for your site name only shows your site and Tek-Tips (obviously). You need to get a few quality inbound links, say from dmoz.org or Yahoo or Zeal.

Two: Your index page isn't all that spider friendly. There is a lot of javascript at the beginning, and many spiders will only read the first X bytes of a page. You could try breaking out your javascript.

For a view of what spiders might see, try the Spider Simulator:



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You asked this basic question in a previous thread. The answer is still the same. As Wullie, foxdev and myself (in the previous thread) have said, you need to add real textual content. Your index page is basically an image. Spiders are not going to be able to read your image's text.

To get your site indexed and get a high ranking, you need to add lots of valid textual content with links from other relavent sites.

mike
 
i understand the issues with the home page...i'm heavy image and virtually no textual content...but what about all of the content pages...all of the linked pages from the home page all contain plenty of text...why wouldn't that be getting spidered?
 
The internal pages will not be crawled because your home page is top heavy with javascript and the internal pages are all called with query strings eg: /content.php?sn=ourbeliefs&page=welcome&name=ourbeliefs"
and the crawlers\spiders do not handle this type of link very well (if at all), there are exceptions of course.
The crawlers also have limited time on your site\page and do not always traverse the entire text of the page so may not even hit the content if there is a lot of unimportant (to the crawler) text first.
Try View|Source on your page, to see how the site appears to the spiders, and have a look at your site in Opera with images and javascript off as spiders\crawlers are not java or image enabled.
While the site looks very nice from a design point of view, it is in no way search engine friendly or Accessibility friendly. Take a look at the SEO forums at for more info.
The same comments apply to the other site you asked a similar question about ( because both sites have been built using the same template\program they will suffer the same issues.


Chris.


Indifference will be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
 
thanks for your help...is there a way i can have all of my javascript load later and still not lose functionality...guess what im asking is...i really need to fix this however possible...any suggestions what be great
 
Ok,
The javascript code can be moved into an external file (functions.js) (do not include script tags in this file) and included in the pages by using
<script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot; language=&quot;javascript&quot; src=&quot;functions.js&quot;></script> in the document head. The functions are called exactly the same way as they are now. As a interim measure you can add alt & title attributes to images and use title attributes on other elements and put relavent text into these to give the spiders something to find but nothing will substitute for real content.

You will have to start a redesign to get away from using images as content. personally I would go along the CSS path for positioning etc and using the images as backgrounds (minus the text of course). some SEs put importance on H1 to H3 tags near the top of pages so you use these as they are meant to be (headings). There are many other steps you can take, A site map, Dynamic pages moved down a level and more QUALITY inbound links (not Free For All links pages, these can have the exact opposite effect), forget the 'We'll submit your site to 10,000 Search Engines' etc and don't expect overnight results.


Chris.


Indifference will be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?
 
Little late coming in here...

But here's my 2 cents:
How long have you been live ? Google hasn't even given you a pagerank.

> Definitely put in a sitemap, -it'll give you an extra page that links to all your other pages. Then submit that page to google.
> Title tags -you have the same title for every page. Change it for every page.
> Meta tags -the only ones you need are title, keywords and description. You don't need the others, they are virtually useless.
> I had a look at your source for one of your pages (I assume it's the same for all) You have no opening html tag and an extra closing head tag. - could be messing with the googlebot.





 
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