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noellees1

noellees1

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Hi,
Im a total newbie to linux well a nonstarter even so bare with me i have some questions that im sure you people can help me with.
A) Does any version of Linux have a GUI (someone told me they dont)
B) What do i need to use to run a webserver
C) Are there any downloads for linux versions that i hope you can reccomened to me
D) Just general guidance on Linux and what i need for a webserver LAN to begin with then eventually WWW, i just want to learn how to use it seeing as im quite good at Networking and XP so i thought linux seemed a good place to come a learn as it seems increasingly useful
Thanks for help, starts up for offer


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A: Every modern Linux distribution I know of can use a GUI -- it's called X window. But unlike Win32, X window is not required for the operation of the OS.

B: You need to install and configure Apache.

C: There are lots of downloads for Linux versions -- point your browser to I recommend you stay with one of the more popular distributions: Fedora, SuSE, Debian, or Mandrake.

D: This is a broad question.

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a) GUI??? what are you talking about?

b) a web server, standard (most used) in linux: Apacha ( it's free.

c) debian, red-hat, suse, slackware, etc. Personally, I recommend Debian, but you can start with Knoppix... it loads from a CD and you don't need install, just boot with the CD and it will load the OS from CD.. no install (based on debian, BTW)

d) Most used in Linux: Apache, PHP ( MySQL ( but you can haver Perl, cgi, etc.
 
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GUI - Graphical User Interface as in point and click buttons as apossed to command prompt dos styleé.
Thanks for the help by the sound of it debian redhat and mandrake seem the most popular which one would i get help with quickest? No doubt i will get hopelessly stuck!
Cheers help was very quick

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I take it there isnt another way to get round it any asp to php asp to perl etc converters about ive spent a lot of time in ASP vbscript based and made large websites in it i kinda wanna keep ASP.
Is their no other alternative?


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Cheers Slepinir you really are a wealth of knowledge lol!
Could you point me in the direction of a good version of linux and tell me what to damn well download!
There seem to be so many different files .bin .iso .lalalal no idea what is happening with it.
So what is the most stable or your preffered version?
Where do i download it and what files?
And Thankyou have another star if i can give you one

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I'm a fan of suggesting Knoppix ( first, as it's a no-risk, free shot at checking out a very decent Linux-driven system. Here's a UK mirror of the latest knoppix iso (to the best of my knowledge):

Grab the .iso (699.9MB), burn it, boot it. Don't like it? Turn the box off, use the CD for a coaster, no big deal.

Then, when you learn to love it, install Debian (don't listen to that darned Redhat/Fedora crowd ;-))

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noellees1:
What are you planning on doing with Linux?

If you're planning on running a server, I'd go with Fedora or SuSE.


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You have to take flugh's posts with a grain of salt. He often starts well, but his mind can't hold coherent thoughts in place. See what I mean? He had a good start with recommending Knoppix as a place to get your feet wet. But then he wandered off into Wonderland.
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And as for what and where to download....

You can get Fedora at the LinuxISO site I mentioned or at the official Fedora site.

SuSE is available at LinuxISO and at this site


What you want to download is the ISO CD-ROM image files. You can take these files and burn them to CD with nearly any CD-ROM burning software. The thing to remember is that you don't want to just copy the file -- you want to use your software's "Burn image to CD" feature.

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SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOW god there taking about 17hours per .iso file thats 3 lots of 600mb why are they so slow im on Broadband 512kb yet im only gettin about 11kb off them!
Are there any places that offer a faster place to download them
I dont have 17hours per CD to wait! lol the cds in my bedroom i need sleep!

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Right disc one eventually downloaded although i think it was about 129mb's not the 600 it said but it said once it was expanded from the iso it would be so i burnt the image to disk using neros image burning utlitily but i kept gettin errors about the block size it was tellling me its a forign image file, i clicked ignor seeing as i had no idea what it was on about.
Now the f***in thing gets to the installing fedora screen after ive clicked what to install etc, then tells me the cd media is courrupt?
Whats happening their then? its read it the rest of the time buit going to install i get this error
The package fedora logos 1.1.20-1 cannot be opened. This is due to a missing file or perhaps a courrupt package. If you are installing from cd media this usually means the cd media is corrupt or the cd drive is unable to read the media

Press <return> to try again
Disc check gives me the same error yet i know my discs are find do i not need 2 finalize them or something? HELP!!!!

P.S this is where i downloaded them from

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Fedora has a number of mirror sites all around the world -- you can find the list here.

If one mirror site is too slow, pick another one.

But keep in mind that you're going to be downloading 3 ISO files at around 620MB each. That's simply going to take a while, depending on your connection speed.

You can also purchase pre-burned Fedora CDs at CheapBytes. The 3-CD install set it ~$7.00, the full 6-CD set (including 3 source CDs) is ~$12.00.

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Cheers for the help
Im buying SUSE 9 Pro off ebay its 5cds i think, only 4quid and its the real thing not a copy, or so im told so i should still be benifiting the Linux community.
Is it worth me getting
Mandrake or
Redhat or
Fedora
These are all on ebay to buy and there all well under a fiver each about ten dollars i think that would be.
Are they worth it, as in is it worth my while owning them?
Noel


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Right ive just found another thread in the server half of the linux forums, the poster has said something about samba.
I would like my XP machine and 98se machine view and share data with the linux machine do i need samba whatever it is?
The company slogan opening windows to a wider world suggests to me that samaba is needed to open either linux up to windows or vice-versa


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WOW ive got knoppix and i have to say it is pretty darn impressive! expecially for a free OS.
You get openoffice that exports into pdf you have to pay for a program that does that for you!
WOW i like linux lol seems pretty darn powerful for a free program well next to free comared to windows which is a total rip off!
Thanks all, i am in the process of buying SUSE and Debian to learn more.
I'm also going to get mandrake, fedora and Redhat just to give them a go and see which one i like there only a few quid to get off the linux site so thats where im headed


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noellees1 said:
WOW i like linux lol seems pretty darn powerful for a free program well next to free comared to windows which is a total rip off!
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Welcome to the Light, my child.
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Just wait until you get a multi-CD distribution and see all the other stuff that's available. Database servers (yes, plural), a web server, FTP servers, mail servers, etc.

Again, what Samba does is lets Linux speak Windows networking. You can then configure a directory on Linux to be available in Network Neighborhood (or whatever Microsoft is calling it this week) from Win32 workstations.

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