newbie doing basic stuff is struggling 1

[raygg]

I downloaded Oracle Linux R5 and installed it as a dua;l boot on xp. It boots fine. Trying to install Thunderbird and I am stuck in the basics. I downloaded it and it went to \ray\home as a gz file. I extracted it to a folder \ray\home\thunderbird . Now what?

I tried using the Gnome file handler but ran into some basic problems: I have no idea what the executable is. I determined that if I open the folder with the file manager I can drag and drop the icon of a file to the Gnome desktop. But I do not know which one to drag and drop

Another simple getting started issue.
I downloaded Oracle documentation to the desktop and determined that if I drill down far enough I fi nd a file toc.htm, which if I click on will open up the main index to all the doc in the firefox browser. However I tried to drag that toc.htm icon to the desktop and then when I click on it it has lost all its links to everything from the main index page. I dragged the icon back to the little windows of the folder where it resided and clicked and still no links.

I took a course in linux about 8 years ago and it is slow coming back.

Any help would be appreciated. I have spent a lot of time searching the web but no one addresses these fundamental points.

 

[LarryTheCucumber]

Not to start a flame war. Why the Oracle Distribution?
It is meant more for Enterprise expert use.

On the Desktop right mouse click and select create launcher,
fill in the information.

Same goes for the toc.htm

To execute a program not in the PATH put a ./ (period slash) in front of the program name.

 

[IPGuru]

in addition to the above notes.
If you are trying to execute a binary from a location in the path you would also need to set the execute bit on the file

However I am not sure that is what you actually want to be doing.
is the download you have a binary or the source code?

Does Oracle have a Package Manager? if so then this would be the preferred way to install applications.
as it claims to be red-hat compatible I would suggest you try yum (an a command prompt type yum list thunderbird & see what result you get)

Unless there is a specific reason for Oracle you may be wiser to start with a more friendly distro while you are finding your feet (in which case a red hat derivative such as Fedora might be best if you want to return to Oracle)

I do not Have A.D.D. im just easily, Hey look a Squirrel!

 

[raygg]

I am an Oracle DBA trying to set up a sandbox for the latest Oracle database on Linux because those skills (oracle on linux and everything it implies) are in demand. It's the Enterprise version I need to play with on Linux to get up to speed.

 

[raygg]

@larrytheCucumber
"on the desktop right mouse click launcher. Fill in the information. Same goes for toc htm."
Could u b more specific. I am not sure what to enter. As for tbird i am not using the source code version so i don't think it has to be compiled but i don't know what what executable to use to enter into tje launchrr.

As for the Oracle doc package i have the same problem. And i cannot find detailed doc in the Help to explain it.

I really woulkd appreciate the help.

 

[BadBigBen]

for the OFFICIAL website release:
(

http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/

)

How to install Thunderbird 3.0 under Linux

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/feature/1565967/how-install-thunderbird-linux

for RPM, as mentioned it is the package manager of Oracle Linux R5 and you could use YUM:

Install Thunderbird 3.1 (3.1.4) on Fedora 13, Fedora 12

http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/install-thunderbird-on-fedora-mozilla-thunderbird-linux/

Ben
"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."
How to ask a question, when posting them to a professional forum.
Only ask questions with yes/no answers if you want "yes" or "no"

 

[raygg]

A big star to bigbadben - the inquirer reference worked., From that I went on to install the Oracle Doc

Now I have another problem---- how do I install wifi? I have already found postings to indicate that since this is an ent srvr version of Linux it was not intended to have wifi like desktop linux d's.

Any help would be appreciated

 

[BadBigBen]

How Do I Set Up Wireless Under Linux?

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/10923

Ben
"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."
How to ask a question, when posting them to a professional forum.
Only ask questions with yes/no answers if you want "yes" or "no"

 

[raygg]

In System>Administration>Network the Network Configuration > Devices tab:window Profile=inactive, Device=wlan0 Nickname=wlan0 Type=Wireless
Hardware tab: Description=Intel Corporation PROM wireless device=wlan0 status=ok

When I highlight the wireless device line under the Devices tab, and click Activate, I get this error message in a popup box:
Cannot activate network device wlano
Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8806)
SET failed on device wlan0; invalid argument

Determining IP information for
wlan0....SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory failed.

 

[BadBigBen]

Ray,

did you get the correct driver for the Wireless-NIC that is installed?



Ben
"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."
How to ask a question, when posting them to a professional forum.
Only ask questions with yes/no answers if you want "yes" or "no"

 

[raygg]

How do I determine what the correct driver is? This is being run on a Lenovo 32 bit Intel dual core w 4g Ram. I don't know where to find the driver or how to determine if it is the correct one or how to install it. Newbiedom is very frustrating.

 

[BadBigBen]

How do I determine what the correct driver is?

well this is easier than you think, actually...

1. start by looking at the specs of the machine on the manufacturers website...

2. you could list the the model name of the laptop here, and one of us could point you in the correct direction...

3. every distro that I've ever worked with has a neat little app that lists the hardware info for you, e.g. Yast2 on SuSE... alternatively see if hwinfo is installed, by opening a shell (with root rights) and issue the command: hwinfo --help, if it starts dumping info then you have it installed, if not then install it through YUM...

lshw or lspci also can be used from a command line to determine what hardware is in a system...



Ben
"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."
How to ask a question, when posting them to a professional forum.
Only ask questions with yes/no answers if you want "yes" or "no"

 

[flyboytim]

The following:

http://forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=4512370

and

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless

may be of help.

you need to find the specific wireless device to choose its driver on your system with the following command like:

me@my-laptop:~$ [b]lspci | grep Wireless[/b]
05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)

 

[raygg]

lshw and hwinfo not present

lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 PCI Express Root Port (rev 0c)
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566MM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 03)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 3 (rev 03)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev f3)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HBM (ICH8M-E) LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) IDE Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Quadro NVS 140M (rev a1)
03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)
15:00.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ba)
15:00.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 04)



lspci | grep Wireless
03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)


[root@Lenovo ~]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
usb_storage 81057 0
autofs4 29253 3
hidp 23105 2
rfcomm 42457 0
l2cap 29505 10 hidp,rfcomm
bluetooth 53925 5 hidp,rfcomm,l2cap
dm_log_clustered 17200 0
lockd 63337 0
sunrpc 146685 2 lockd
cpufreq_ondemand 12493 1
acpi_cpufreq 13897 1
ip_conntrack_ftp 11569 0
ip_conntrack_netbios_ns 6977 0
ipt_REJECT 9665 1
xt_state 6209 9
ip_conntrack 53281 3 ip_conntrack_ftp,ip_conntrack_netbios_ns,xt_state
nfnetlink 10713 1 ip_conntrack
iptable_filter 7105 1
ip_tables 17029 1 iptable_filter
ip6t_REJECT 9409 1
xt_tcpudp 7105 24
ip6table_filter 6849 1
ip6_tables 18053 1 ip6table_filter
x_tables 17349 6 ipt_REJECT,xt_state,ip_tables,ip6t_REJECT,xt_tcpudp,ip6_tables
loop 18760 0
dm_multipath 25421 0
scsi_dh 12097 1 dm_multipath
video 21193 0
thinkpad_acpi 56929 0
backlight 10049 2 video,thinkpad_acpi
sbs 18533 0
power_meter 16461 0
hwmon 7365 2 thinkpad_acpi,power_meter
i2c_ec 9025 1 sbs
dell_wmi 8401 0
wmi 12137 1 dell_wmi
button 10705 0
battery 13637 0
asus_acpi 19289 0
ac 9157 0
ipv6 270305 19 ip6t_REJECT
xfrm_nalgo 13381 1 ipv6
parport_pc 29157 0
lp 15849 0
parport 37513 2 parport_pc,lp
snd_hda_intel 472209 1
joydev 13185 0
testmgr_cipher 6849 0
testmgr 52337 1 testmgr_cipher
aead 11841 1 testmgr
crypto_blkcipher 17601 1 testmgr
crypto_algapi 22849 3 testmgr,aead,crypto_blkcipher
crypto_api 12609 5 xfrm_nalgo,testmgr,aead,crypto_blkcipher,crypto_algapi
snd_seq_dummy 7877 0
snd_seq_oss 32577 0
snd_seq_midi_event 11073 1 snd_seq_oss
arc4 6209 2
snd_seq 49713 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
sg 36573 0
snd_seq_device 11725 3 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss 42817 0
snd_mixer_oss 19009 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm 72261 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 24517 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
iwlagn 108993 0
snd_page_alloc 14281 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
snd_hwdep 12869 1 snd_hda_intel
iwlcore 109125 1 iwlagn
snd 55749 11 snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep
mac80211 139073 2 iwlagn,iwlcore
serio_raw 10693 0
i2c_i801 11725 0
soundcore 11553 1 snd
e1000e 116769 0
i2c_core 24001 2 i2c_ec,i2c_i801
ide_cd 40161 0
pcspkr 7105 0
cfg80211 141449 3 iwlagn,iwlcore,mac80211
rfkill 19797 1 cfg80211
wireless_compat 5825 2 cfg80211,rfkill
uvcvideo 53833 0
compat_ioctl32 5569 1 uvcvideo
videodev 25793 1 uvcvideo
v4l1_compat 16069 2 uvcvideo,videodev
v4l2_common 24385 2 uvcvideo,videodev
cdrom 36577 1 ide_cd
dm_raid45 67145 0
dm_message 6977 1 dm_raid45
dm_region_hash 15681 1 dm_raid45
dm_mem_cache 9537 1 dm_raid45
dm_snapshot 23141 0
dm_zero 6209 0
dm_mirror 24393 0
dm_log 14657 4 dm_log_clustered,dm_raid45,dm_region_hash,dm_mirror
dm_mod 63225 12 dm_log_clustered,dm_multipath,dm_raid45,dm_snapshot,dm_zero,dm_mirror,dm_log
ata_piix 23621 0
ahci 35145 2
libata 157445 2 ata_piix,ahci
sd_mod 25281 3
scsi_mod 141973 5 usb_storage,scsi_dh,sg,libata,sd_mod
ext3 125513 2
jbd 57321 1 ext3
uhci_hcd 25549 0
ohci_hcd 25193 0
ehci_hcd 34125 0
[root@Lenovo ~]#


[root@Lenovo ~]# iwconfig
lo no wireless extensions.

eth0 no wireless extensions.

wlan0 IEEE 802.11abgn ESSIDff/any
Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=0 dBm
RTS thrff Fragment thrff
Encryption keyff
Power Managementff

sit0 no wireless extensions.

[root@Lenovo ~]#


When I bring up the System>Administration>Network window and click Activate with the wireles line highlighted, I get this error message in a popup


Determining IP information for wlan0...SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory

--------------------------------------------------------
The links u gave me led me to a firmware page for Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN Adapter which I downloaded.


The README :
----------------------------------------------------
The file iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode

provided in this package must be

present on your system in order for the Intel Wireless WiFi Link

4965AGN driver for Linux (iwlwifi-4965) to operate on your system.



The "-2" in the filename reflects an interface/architecture version number.

It will change only when changes in new uCode releases make the new uCode

incompatible with earlier drivers.



On adapter initialization, and at varying times during the uptime of

the adapter, the microcode is loaded into the RAM on the network

adapter. The microcode provides the low level MAC features including

radio control and high precision timing events (backoff, transmit,

etc.) while also providing varying levels of packet filtering which can

be used to keep the host from having to handle packets that are not of

interest given the current operating mode of the device.



2. INSTALLATION



The iwlwifi-4965 driver will look for the file iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode using the

kernel's firmware_loader infrastructure. In order to function

correctly, you need to have this support enabled in your kernel. When you configure the kernel, you can find this option in the following

location:



Device Drivers ->

Generic Driver Options ->

Hotplug firmware loading support





You can determine if your kernel currently has firmware loader support

by looking for the CONFIG_FW_LOADER definition on your kernel's

.config.



In addition to having the firmware_loader support in your kernel, you

must also have a working hotplug and udev infrastructure configured.

The steps for installing and configuring hotplug and udev are very

distribution specific.



Once you have the firmware loader in place (or if you aren't sure and

you just want to try things to see if it works), you need to install

the microcode file into the appropriate location.



Where that appropriate location is depends (again) on your system

distribution. You can typically find this location by looking in the

hotplug configuration file for your distro:



% grep \"^FIRMWARE_DIR\" /etc/hotplug/firmware.agent



This should give you output like:



FIRMWARE_DIR=/lib/firmware



If it lists more than one directory, you only need to put the

microcode in one of them. In the above example, installation is

simply:



% cp iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode /lib/firmware



You can now load the driver (see the INSTALL and README.iwlwifi provided with

the iwlwifi package for information on building and using that driver.)

---------------------------------------------------
I don't understand what this means:
---------------------------------------------------
When you configure the kernel, you can find this option in the following

location:



Device Drivers ->

Generic Driver Options ->

Hotplug firmware loading support

-------------------------------------------------------

I did a find on firm* to get this

-------------------------------------------------------

[root@Lenovo /]# find -type d -name firm*
./etc/firmware
./usr/src/kernels/2.6.18-194.el5-PAE-i686/include/config/prevent/firmware
./usr/src/kernels/2.6.18-194.el5-PAE-i686/include/config/hostap/firmware
./usr/src/kernels/2.6.18-194.el5-PAE-i686/drivers/firmware
./sys/firmware
./sys/class/firmware
./lib/modules/2.6.18-194.el5/kernel/drivers/firmware
./lib/modules/2.6.18-194.el5PAE/kernel/drivers/firmware
./lib/firmware

#KERNAL VERSION?
[root@Lenovo /]# uname -r
2.6.18-194.el5PAE

-------------------------------------------------

I tried doing a yum install from my unzipped download and got this

----------------------------------------------------
[root@Lenovo iwlwifi-4965-ucode-228.61.2.24]# yum install iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode
Loaded plugins: security
Setting up Install Process
No package iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode available.
Nothing to do


------------------------------------------

Any ideas?

 

[BadBigBen]

lots of information... GOOD...

now this is what Intel has to say for your Kernal version (2.6.18):

Using kernels older than 2.6.24
These kernels do not have the iwlwifi driver included. When using these kernels you have some options based on your requirements.

* If you want to use a released driver, proceed to the download page. You will need to download and install a driver (iwlwifi) as well as the mac80211 subsystem (mac80211) available from this page.
* If you wish to use the latest (or very close to it) development code then you can make use of the compat-wireless project.

source:

http://intellinuxwireless.org/?p=iwlwifi

or take a look at:

Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN (iwl4965 and iwlagn)

If you have a working network connection and you have RPMforge configured in yum, then it is really simple, just install the iwl4965-firmware by doing:

yum install iwl4965-firmware

(!) If you don't have a network connection, simply download the firmware RPM packages named iwl4965-firmware from RPMforge at

http://packages.sw.be/iwl4965-firmware/

on another system and transfer the file using a USB stick. Then install the package manually using: rpm -Uhv <filename>

Then just reload the iwlagn module (on older CentOS 5.1/5.2 the module was called iwl4965):

modprobe -r iwlagn; modprobe iwlagn

Your wireless device should now be working. Enable NetworkManager to use it.

Source:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless#head-97ffecc675e60b690e5649c6ccef13cc34184187

Ben
"If it works don't fix it! If it doesn't use a sledgehammer..."
How to ask a question, when posting them to a professional forum.
Only ask questions with yes/no answers if you want "yes" or "no"

 

[flyboytim]

lspci gives:

Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN...

The CentOS link I posted above says:

Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN (iwl4965 and iwlagn)

If you have a working network connection and you have RPMforge configured in yum, then it is really simple, just install the iwl4965-firmware by doing:

yum install iwl4965-firmware

If you don't have a network connection, simply download the firmware RPM packages named iwl4965-firmware from RPMforge at

http://packages.sw.be/iwl4965-firmware/

on another system and transfer the file using a USB stick. Then install the package manually using: rpm -Uhv <filename>

Then just reload the iwlagn module (on older CentOS 5.1/5.2 the module was called iwl4965):


modprobe -r iwlagn; modprobe iwlagn
Your wireless device should now be working. Enable NetworkManager to use it.

Oracle forums are down at present, so I can't root around there.

Reading your post:

...installation is simply:

% cp iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode /lib/firmware

i.e. copy the file into that folder, not install it as a package - hence the "Nothing to do".